Subject: Re: On "learned" A/P, lattice / grid From: Eliot Handelman <eliot@xxxxxxxx> Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 12:09:13 -0400 List-Archive:<http://lists.mcgill.ca/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=AUDITORY>Martin Braun wrote: > Dear Eliot and others, > >> Chroma differentiation could make music more interesting to listeners >> without necessarily influencing the structure of music. >> As culture becomes increasingly complex, it's hard to assume that any >> such map exists that isn't ultimately random. > > Diana's work (see her last post) shows that the maps are not random. Is this consistent with Diana's concept of "the possibility of basic disagreement at the perceptual level," in matters musical? Also consider: a composer "in agreement" with some sort of universalized perception code would probably tend to create music exactly conformant to existing patterns of musical structure. The composer who invents a new style is probably someone with a rather uncommon, if not unique,. perceptual style. In the visual arts this seems certain. -- eliot