Subject: Re: Impacts from ultrasound and infrasound From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Henrik_M=F8ller?= <hm@xxxxxxxx> Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 14:58:07 +0200 List-Archive:<http://lists.mcgill.ca/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=AUDITORY>This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------070600060808060503010706 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bob Masta skrev: > > > Henrik: > > Amy's original question was not confined to audition or the > hearing threshold. I am fully aware of this, I just wanted to mention that these low frequencies actually can be heard. The experiment you mention seems to be a (whole-)body vibration, not a sound exposure and that is a completely different matter. (By the way, have you seen a proper scientific reference?). Our sensitivity to whole-body vibrations is highest at a few hertz, which e.g. is reflected in the weighting curves in ISO 2631 "Mechanical vibration and shock - Evaluation of human exposure to whole-body vibration". For vibrations there are certainly a variety of resonance frequencies in the body, and quite many are below 20 Hz. There are also body resonances for acoustic exposure, but they are a bit higher in frequency than for vibrations, since the body is a lot stiffer for acoustic stimulation than for vibrations. Henrik > The 7 Hz phenomenon that I referred to > was probably a fairly large amplitude, but I can't relate > it to "hearing threshold" at that frequency (!). As I > recall, subjects were in a jet pilot's seat atop a shaker > system. The 7 Hz sensitivity was assumed to be purely > visceral, having nothing whatsoever to do with audition... > probably just the effects of mechanical stretching and > scrubbing together of internal organs due to large motions > at the visceral resonance frequency. I have no doubt that > there would have been some synchonization of brain waves, > as a side effect of having one's guts tossed around! > > Best regards, > > Bob Masta > > D A Q A R T A > Data AcQuisition And Real-Time Analysis > www.daqarta.com > Scope, Spectrum, Spectrogram, Signal Generator > Science with your sound card! > --------------070600060808060503010706 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <meta content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type"> </head> <body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> Bob Masta skrev: <blockquote cite="mid:20090817122759.A52EF4412@xxxxxxxx" type="cite"><br> <pre wrap=""><!----> Henrik: Amy's original question was not confined to audition or the hearing threshold. </pre> </blockquote> I am fully aware of this, I just wanted to mention that these low frequencies actually can be heard. <br> <br> The experiment you mention seems to be a (whole-)body vibration, not a sound exposure and that is a completely different matter. (By the way, have you seen a proper scientific reference?). Our sensitivity to whole-body vibrations is highest at a few hertz, which e.g. is reflected in the weighting curves in ISO 2631 "Mechanical vibration and shock - Evaluation of human exposure to whole-body vibration".<br> <br> For vibrations there are certainly a variety of resonance frequencies in the body, and quite many are below 20 Hz. There are also body resonances for acoustic exposure, but they are a bit higher in frequency than for vibrations, since the body is a lot stiffer for acoustic stimulation than for vibrations. <br> <br> Henrik<br> <blockquote cite="mid:20090817122759.A52EF4412@xxxxxxxx" type="cite"> <pre wrap="">The 7 Hz phenomenon that I referred to was probably a fairly large amplitude, but I can't relate it to "hearing threshold" at that frequency (!). As I recall, subjects were in a jet pilot's seat atop a shaker system. The 7 Hz sensitivity was assumed to be purely visceral, having nothing whatsoever to do with audition... probably just the effects of mechanical stretching and scrubbing together of internal organs due to large motions at the visceral resonance frequency. I have no doubt that there would have been some synchonization of brain waves, as a side effect of having one's guts tossed around! Best regards, Bob Masta D A Q A R T A Data AcQuisition And Real-Time Analysis <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.daqarta.com">www.daqarta.com</a> Scope, Spectrum, Spectrogram, Signal Generator Science with your sound card! </pre> </blockquote> </body> </html> --------------070600060808060503010706--