Subject: Re: One's own voice (continued) From: Peter Lennox <P.Lennox@xxxxxxxx> Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 15:17:17 +0100 List-Archive:<http://lists.mcgill.ca/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=AUDITORY>Martin's just said what I was going to say. I've previously used the term "cartoonification" to stress that a given perceptual quality can be evoked without physical verisimilitude; I use the term slightly differently from Bill Gaver's usage in that I do mean 'perceptual cartoons' rather than the more restricted sense of physical ones. However, for the latter to 'work', I presume the existence of the former as intrinsic to perceptual processes. For an excellent visual example, see the BML walker at Biomotionlab's website: http://www.biomotionlab.ca/Demos/BMLwalker.html In other words, as Martin implies, what is being imitated is not the actual audio signal, but the behaviour regards Dr Peter Lennox Director of Signal Processing and Applications Research Group (SPARG) School of Technology, Faculty of Arts, design and Technology University of Derby, UK p.lennox@xxxxxxxx (01332) 593155 http://sparg.derby.ac.uk/SPARG/Staff_PLX.asp -----Original Message----- From: AUDITORY - Research in Auditory Perception [mailto:AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx On Behalf Of Martin Braun Sent: 21 April 2009 14:15 To: AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx Subject: Re: One's own voice (continued) Kevin and others, good question. It's this type of question that keeps science alive. My suggestion would be that voice imitators do not imitate the power spectrum of a voice that they hear. Instead they try to imitate its most striking characteristic features. You have an analogue in caricature drawing of well-known faces. These drawings are very far from naturalistic, but the drawn persons can usually be recognized instantaneously. Martin --------------------------------------------------------------------- Martin Braun Neuroscience of Music S-671 95 Klässbol Sweden web site: http://w1.570.telia.com/~u57011259/index.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Austin" <kevin.austin@xxxxxxxx> To: <AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 5:03 AM Subject: One's own voice (continued) > This idea continues to roam around my mind. My consideration now is as > follows: If the reason for 'not recognizing' ones own voice (or not > liking it) from a recording is that the 'sound' is largely from bone > conduction, then I'm trying to figure out how it would be possible to > imitate another voice. > > Someone says the word "shore" to me, and when I imitate it, the "version" > I hear would be largely from bone conduction, and so I would adjust my > speech to adjust for the 'bone conduction filtered' version of the sound > that I hear when I say it. How could I adequately match an accent or > voice, if I don't hear the sound "as I make it". > > I'm sorry if this is a vague idea, but I tried to imagine a machine- > model, and the model wouldn't work. > > > Best > > Kevin The University of Derby has a published policy regarding email and reserves the right to monitor email traffic. If you believe this email was sent to you in error, please notify the sender and delete this email. Please direct any concerns to Infosec@xxxxxxxx The policy is available here: http://www.derby.ac.uk/LIS/Email-Policy