Subject: Re: attachments From: Dan Ellis <dpwe@xxxxxxxx> Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 08:14:19 -0500 List-Archive:<http://lists.mcgill.ca/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=AUDITORY>A bit of background on attachments: - The request to avoid attachments originated with the problems it caused for readers subscribed in "digest" mode, who would have to scroll through dozens of pages of ASCII-encoded binary to see any later messages. I'm not sure if the more recent version of the listserv software has improved this; I personally stopped using digest mode because it also mangled any "rich text" messages. - Yesterday's large attachment caused errors with 167 list subscribers (either due to hard limits on message size at their sites, or because it pushed their indivdual email allowance over quota. I personally have gradually begun to use large-ish email attachments more and more. I do, however, think there are still good reasons to avoid large attachments on the list. As an alternative, I am happy to host files on the www.auditory.org website - so, for instance, you could email the attachment to me personally, I would mail you back the URL of where I have put it, then you could post a message to the list including that URL. DAn. On Jan 7, 2009, at 2:37, "Bruno L. Giordano" <bruno.giordano@xxxxxxxx > wrote: > Hello, > > My intention was to take the chance to cheerfully remind of the list > policy. Evidently I misperceived my own cheerfulness, and I started > a thread. > > As already explained to Chas offlist, I have been archiving the list > since 2000 (call it collector compulsion, a personal archive allows > for more flexible searches than the available web services). Every > time I update my main machine I move all my mail, including the list > archive. Regular large attachments will force me to abandon this > habit, since I will be less happy to move around gigs of mail. > > Some stats fun: the "incriminated" message (11M) is around 2000 > times the median size of the mails sent to the list since 2000 (5K) > and around 2 years of messages. > > I would be more than happy if the list server allowed subscribers to > decide whether to receive attachments above a specified size. > > All the best, > > Bruno > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Bruno L. Giordano, PhD > Music Perception and Cognition Laboratory > CIRMMT http://www.cirmmt.mcgill.ca/ > Schulich School of Music, McGill University > 555 Sherbrooke Street West > Montréal, QC H3A 1E3 > Canada > Office: +1 514 398 4535 ext. 00900 > http://www.music.mcgill.ca/~bruno/ > > > Beerends, J.G. (John) wrote: >> Dear All, >> Personally I would be in favor of allowing attachments and leave it >> up >> to the members of the AUDITORY LIST to decide whether something is of >> general interest and thus could be send as an attachment to the >> reflector. >> I found the paper I got from Chaslav over the reflector very >> intersting >> and this paper certainly falls in the category "high quality and of >> general interest". And indeed with all these high speed connections >> and >> large computer storage this should be no problem. Why not allow it >> and >> see if we can self regulate? >> John Beerends >> TNO Information and Communication Technology >> The Netherlands >> -----Original Message----- >> From: AUDITORY - Research in Auditory Perception >> [mailto:AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx On Behalf Of Chas Pavlovic >> Sent: dinsdag 6 januari 2009 23:16 >> To: AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx >> Subject: Re: Article request: Pavlovic, C. (1991) >> Pierre, I will send you the article in a separate email since I was >> so >> publicly reminded that this list should not be used for >> attachments. If anybody else needs this or other SII (AI) articles >> let me know. Also, I will try to put some of those on www.sii.to >> in the next few >> days. At this day and age with virtually unlimited storage, fast DSL, >> and a the delete function on the keyboard it is hard to justify that >> journal articles should not be enclosed. >> Chas >> Pierre Divenyi wrote: >>> Dawna, >>> >>> Please do the electronic version, so that others on the list could >>> also benefit from Chas's 1991 wisdom (I am sure he will not mind). >>> >>> -Pierre >>> >>> At 02:53 PM 1/5/2009, Lewis, Dawna E wrote: >>>> Oddly enough, I was cleaning some files recently and actually >>>> have a hard copy of that article. I could send you one via >>>> regular mail or try to get time to scan it over the next couple >>>> of days. >>>> >>>> Sincerely, >>>> Dawna Lewis >> This e-mail and its contents are subject to the DISCLAIMER at http://www.tno.nl/disclaimer/email.html >> __________ NOD32 3744 (20090106) Information __________ >> This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. >> http://www.eset.com