Re: Roughness in audio and vision (Bryan Pardo )


Subject: Re: Roughness in audio and vision
From:    Bryan Pardo  <pardo@xxxxxxxx>
Date:    Sun, 15 Feb 2009 23:26:37 -0600
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This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_006F_01C98FC4.E30B9980 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 =20 From: Bryan Pardo [mailto:pardo@xxxxxxxx=20 Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 11:21 PM To: 'AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx' Subject: Roughness in audio and vision =20 Hi everyone, =20 Some colleagues of mine are interested in the relationship between = roughness in visual images and audio images. They sent me the following = questions they were thinking about in hopes that I might be able to = provide some references to get them started. I figured this is just the = mailing list to get some pointers to papers. If any of these questions = make you think of a paper or two, I=E2=80=99d appreciate your emailing = the reference. =20 1) Do we have a reliable method to measure the roughness of a given a = natural sound or image? =20 2) How could one synthesis sound clips (and images) with ascending or = descending order of roughness? =20 3) How can acoustic roughness influence the perceived roughness of the = vision? =20 =20 Thanks all! =20 - Bryan Pardo =20 =20 =20 From: AUDITORY - Research in Auditory Perception = [mailto:AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx On Behalf Of Tony Miller Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 1:32 PM To: AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [AUDITORY] Music cognition meeting, handbook =20 While we are on the topic, I'd like to point list members to a really = fine talk by Ani Patel on Music and the Mind for the UCSD show "Grey = Matters". http://www.ucsd.tv/search-details.asp?showID=3D11189 Absolutely worth 51 minutes and 47 seconds of your time. -Tony On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 2:15 PM, Aniruddh Patel <apatel@xxxxxxxx> wrote: Dear List, Last week I posted to the list about the upcoming music cognition meeting in August (abstract deadline Feb 1): http://music.iupui.edu/smpc2009/ I forgot to mention that some of you may be interested in the newly published Oxford Handbook of Music Psychology (edited by Hallam, Cross, = and Thaut): http://www.us.oup.com/us/catalog/general/subject/Psychology/CognitivePsyc= hology/?view=3Dusa = <http://www.us.oup.com/us/catalog/general/subject/Psychology/CognitivePsy= chology/?view=3Dusa&view=3Dusa&ci=3D9780199298457> = &view=3Dusa&ci=3D9780199298457 This book has a remarkable range, with 52 chapters divided into 11 = sections: - the origins and functions of music - music perception - responses to music - music and the brain - musical development - learning musical skills - musical performance - composition and improvisation - the role of music in our everyday lives - music therapy - conceptual frameworks, research methods, and future directions Note that a 20% discount is available at this website: = http://www.oup.co.uk/sale/amohmp09/ This book, plus Bill Thompson's recent textbook on music cognition ("Music, Thought, and Feeling"), provide wonderful new resources for teaching and research in music cognition. Regards, Ani Patel President, SMPC http://www.musicperception.org/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------------------------------------------------------------------- Aniruddh D. Patel, Ph.D. Esther J. 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They sent me the = following questions they were thinking about in hopes that I might be able to = provide some references to get them started.&nbsp; I figured this is just the = mailing list to get some pointers to papers. If any of these questions make you = think of a paper or two, I=E2=80=99d appreciate your emailing&nbsp; the = reference.<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal>1) Do we have&nbsp;a reliable method to measure the roughness of a given a natural sound or image?<o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal>2) How could one synthesis sound clips (and images)&nbsp;with ascending or descending order of = roughness?<o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal>3) How can acoustic roughness influence the = perceived roughness of the vision?<o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal>Thanks all!<o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p> <p class=3DMsoListParagraph style=3D'text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 = level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style=3D'mso-list:Ignore'>-<span style=3D'font:7.0pt "Times New = Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></span><![endif]>Bryan Pardo<o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3DMsoListParagraph><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p> <div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt = 0in 0in 0in'> <p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>= </b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> AUDITORY - = Research in Auditory Perception [mailto:AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx <b>On Behalf Of = </b>Tony Miller<br> <b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 15, 2009 1:32 PM<br> <b>To:</b> AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx<br> <b>Subject:</b> Re: [AUDITORY] Music cognition meeting, = handbook<o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>While we are on the = topic, I'd like to point list members to a really fine talk by Ani Patel on Music = and the Mind for the UCSD show &quot;Grey Matters&quot;.<br> <br> <a = href=3D"http://www.ucsd.tv/search-details.asp?showID=3D11189">http://www.= ucsd.tv/search-details.asp?showID=3D11189</a><br> <br> Absolutely worth 51 minutes and 47 seconds of your time.<br> <br> -Tony<o:p></o:p></p> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal>On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 2:15 PM, Aniruddh Patel = &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:apatel@xxxxxxxx">apatel@xxxxxxxx</a>&gt; = wrote:<o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal>Dear List,<br> <br> Last week I posted to the list about the upcoming music cognition<br> meeting in August (abstract deadline Feb 1):<br> <br> <a href=3D"http://music.iupui.edu/smpc2009/" = target=3D"_blank">http://music.iupui.edu/smpc2009/</a><br> <br> I forgot to mention that some of you may be interested in the newly<br> published Oxford Handbook of Music Psychology (edited by Hallam, Cross, = and Thaut):<br> <br> <a href=3D"http://www.us.oup.com/us/catalog/general/subject/Psychology/Cogni= tivePsychology/?view=3Dusa&amp;view=3Dusa&amp;ci=3D9780199298457" target=3D"_blank">http://www.us.oup.com/us/catalog/general/subject/Psycho= logy/CognitivePsychology/?view=3Dusa&amp;view=3Dusa&amp;ci=3D978019929845= 7</a><br> <br> This book has a remarkable range, with 52 chapters divided into 11 = sections:<br> <br> - the origins and functions of music<br> - music perception<br> - responses to music<br> - music and the brain<br> - musical development<br> - learning musical skills<br> - musical performance<br> - composition and improvisation<br> - the role of music in our everyday lives<br> - music therapy<br> - conceptual frameworks, research methods, and future directions<br> <br> Note that a 20% discount is available at this website: <a href=3D"http://www.oup.co.uk/sale/amohmp09/" = target=3D"_blank">http://www.oup.co.uk/sale/amohmp09/</a><br> <br> This book, plus Bill Thompson's recent textbook on music cognition<br> (&quot;Music, Thought, and Feeling&quot;), &nbsp;provide wonderful new resources<br> for teaching and research in music cognition.<br> <br> Regards,<br> <br> Ani Patel<br> <br> President, SMPC<br> <a href=3D"http://www.musicperception.org/" = target=3D"_blank">http://www.musicperception.org/</a><br> -------------------------------------------------------------------------= -------------------------------------------------------------------<br> <br> Aniruddh D. Patel, Ph.D.<br> Esther J. Burnham Senior Fellow<br> The Neurosciences Institute<br> 10640 John Jay Hopkins Drive<br> San Diego, CA 92121<br> <br> 858-626-2085 tel<br> 858-626-2099 fax<br> <a href=3D"mailto:apatel@xxxxxxxx" = target=3D"_blank">apatel@xxxxxxxx</a><br> <a href=3D"http://www.nsi.edu/users/patel" = target=3D"_blank">http://www.nsi.edu/users/patel</a><o:p></o:p></p> </div> <p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p> </div> </body> </html> ------=_NextPart_000_006F_01C98FC4.E30B9980--


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