FW: cross-modality-size-loud (Densil Cabrera )


Subject: FW: cross-modality-size-loud
From:    Densil Cabrera  <d.cabrera@xxxxxxxx>
Date:    Wed, 19 Sep 2007 13:44:22 +1000
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This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C7FA6F.4013D76B Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear list, The idea of 'auditory volume' seems to be related to this discussion. Investigated mostly in the first decades of the 20th Century, auditory volume is a subjective judgment of the 'size' of sound - or more precisely, the size of the auditory image. That's different to the size of a sound source, but it may be related 'ecologically'. S.S. Stevens' PhD thesis is about volume and loudness (Harvard 1933). The general findings in the early years was that judgments of size were positively correlated to sound pressure level, and negatively correlated to the frequency (of pure tones). Later research investigated the perceived size of noise bands (effect of bandwidth), the effect of duration, and the effect of interaural coherence. Over the past 40 or so years, the concept of auditory image size has come to be considered important in auditorium acoustics and spatial audio. The most investigated parameter in those fields has been the interaural cross correlation function. However recent work by Russell Mason (in spatial audio) and Ingo Witew (in auditorium acoustics) seems to show some connection to the phenomena investigated in the auditory 'volume' literature. You can confirm the phenomenon of sound pressure level affecting auditory image size by concealing a loudspeaker behind a curtain with a visual grid on it, and for various stimuli asking subjects to identify the edges of the (apparent) sound source. This is what we did some years ago in: D. Cabrera and S. Tilley (2003) "Parameters for auditory display of height and size," 9th International Conference on Auditory Display, Boston , USA , 29-32. (available from www.icad.org <http://www.icad.org/> ). [By the way, if anyone is interested in the other aspect of that paper - pitch-height vs vertical localization, we have recently published on that: D. Cabrera and M. Morimoto (2007) "Influence of fundamental frequency and source elevation on the vertical localization of complex tones and complex tone pairs," Journal of the Acoustical Society of America, 122(1), 478-488.] Densil Cabrera Head, Acoustics Research Laboratory Associate Dean (Research) Faculty of Architecture, Design and Planning University of Sydney NSW 2006 Australia Tel. +612 9351 5267 Skype densilcabrera Fax. +612 9351 3031 densil@xxxxxxxx www.arch.usyd.edu.au/~densil/=20 =20 On 17/09/2007, pieter jan stallen <pj.stallen@xxxxxxxx> wrote:=20 Dear List, Does anyone know of experimental psychological data reported which refutes (or not) the hypothesis: the perception of object O as "has much of quality X" predisposes to the perception also of "has much of quality Y"? E.g., is there empirical evidence for cross-modal bonds like "large objects (much of size) are loud objects (much of sound)" ?=20 Although I see brain research approaching the subject (e.g. http://www.dhushara.com/pdf/synesthesia.pdf <http://www.dhushara.com/pdf/synesthesia.pdf> ) I have not (yet) found so much empirical psychology about such metaphors. I may not have studied carefully enough the synaestesia literature, but appreciate any more specific 'forwardings' then. Pieter Jan Stallen / Chair Community Noise Annoyance / University of Leiden / Netherlands --=20 Dr Jan Schnupp University of Oxford Dept. of Physiology, Anatomy and Genetics Sherrington Building - Parks Road Oxford OX1 3PT - UK +44-1865-272513 www.oxfordhearing.com <http://www.oxfordhearing.com/> =20 --=20 Dr. Bob Carlyon MRC Cognition & Brain Sciences Unit 15 Chaucer Rd. Cambridge CB2 7EF England =20 Phone: +44 1223 355294 ext 651 Fax: +44 1223 359062 www.mrc-cbu.cam.ac.uk <http://www.mrc-cbu.cam.ac.uk/>=20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C7FA6F.4013D76B Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html xmlns:v=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" = xmlns:o=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" = xmlns:w=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" = xmlns:st1=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" = xmlns=3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <head> <meta http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Dus-ascii"> <meta name=3DGenerator content=3D"Microsoft Word 11 (filtered medium)"> <o:SmartTagType = namespaceuri=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name=3D"Street"/> <o:SmartTagType = namespaceuri=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name=3D"address"/> <o:SmartTagType = namespaceuri=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name=3D"City"/> <o:SmartTagType = namespaceuri=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name=3D"country-region"/> <o:SmartTagType = namespaceuri=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name=3D"PlaceName"/> <o:SmartTagType = namespaceuri=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name=3D"PlaceType"/> <o:SmartTagType = namespaceuri=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name=3D"place"/> <!--[if !mso]> <style> st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) } </style> <![endif]--> <style> <!-- /* Font Definitions */ @xxxxxxxx {font-family:"MS Mincho"; panose-1:2 2 6 9 4 2 5 8 3 4;} @xxxxxxxx {font-family:"\@xxxxxxxx Mincho"; panose-1:2 2 6 9 4 2 5 8 3 4;} /* Style Definitions */ p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {margin:0cm; margin-bottom:.0001pt; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman"; color:black;} a:link, span.MsoHyperlink {color:blue; text-decoration:underline;} a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:blue; text-decoration:underline;} p {mso-margin-top-alt:auto; margin-right:0cm; mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto; margin-left:0cm; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman"; color:black;} pre {margin:0cm; margin-bottom:.0001pt; font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New"; color:black;} span.EmailStyle19 {mso-style-type:personal; font-family:Arial; color:navy;} span.EmailStyle22 {mso-style-type:personal-reply; font-family:Arial; color:navy;} @xxxxxxxx Section1 {size:612.0pt 792.0pt; margin:72.0pt 90.0pt 72.0pt 90.0pt;} div.Section1 {page:Section1;} --> </style> <!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:shapedefaults v:ext=3D"edit" spidmax=3D"1026" /> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:shapelayout v:ext=3D"edit"> <o:idmap v:ext=3D"edit" data=3D"1" /> </o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--> </head> <body bgcolor=3Dwhite lang=3DEN-US link=3Dblue vlink=3Dblue> <div class=3DSection1> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3D2 = color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:windowtext'>Dear list,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3D2 = color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:windowtext'>The idea of &#8216;auditory volume&#8217; seems to be related to this = discussion. Investigated mostly in the first decades of the 20<sup>th</sup> Century, auditory volume is a subjective judgment of the &#8216;size&#8217; of = sound &#8211; or more precisely, the size of the auditory image. That&#8217;s different to the size of a sound source, but it may be related = &#8216;ecologically&#8217;. S.S. Stevens&#8217; PhD thesis is about volume and loudness (Harvard = 1933). The general findings in the early years was that judgments of size were = positively correlated to sound pressure level, and negatively correlated to the = frequency (of pure tones). Later research investigated the perceived size of noise = bands (effect of bandwidth), the effect of duration, and the effect of = interaural coherence.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3D2 = color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:windowtext'>Over the past 40 or so years, the concept of auditory image size has come to = be considered important in auditorium acoustics and spatial audio. The most investigated parameter in those fields has been the interaural cross correlation function. However recent work by Russell Mason (in spatial = audio) and Ingo Witew (in auditorium acoustics) seems to show some connection = to the phenomena investigated in the auditory &#8216;volume&#8217; = literature.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3D2 = color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:windowtext'>You can confirm the phenomenon of sound pressure level affecting auditory = image size by concealing a loudspeaker behind a curtain with a visual grid on = it, and for various stimuli asking subjects to identify the edges of the = (apparent) sound source. This is what we did some years ago = in:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3D1 = color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:windowtext'>D. Cabrera and S. Tilley (2003) &quot;Parameters for auditory display of = height and size,&quot; <em><i><font face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-family:Arial'>9th International Conference on Auditory Display</span></font></i></em>, = <st1:place w:st=3D"on"><st1:City w:st=3D"on">Boston</st1:City> , = <st1:country-region w:st=3D"on">USA</st1:country-region></st1:place> , 29-32. (available from <a href=3D"http://www.icad.org/"><font = color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:windowtext'>www.icad.org</span></font></a>). [By the way, = if anyone is interested in the other aspect of that paper &#8211; = pitch-height vs vertical localization, we have recently published on that: D. Cabrera = and M. Morimoto (2007) &quot;Influence of fundamental frequency and source = elevation on the vertical localization of complex tones and complex tone = pairs,&quot; <em><i><font face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-family:Arial'>Journal of the Acoustical = Society of America</span></font></i></em>, 122(1), 478-488.]</span></font><font = size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial; color:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:windowtext'>Densil = Cabrera</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'color:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:windowtext'>Head, Acoustics Research = Laboratory</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'color:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:windowtext'>Associate Dean = (Research)</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'color:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:windowtext'>Faculty of Architecture, = Design and Planning</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'color:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><st1:PlaceType w:st=3D"on"><font size=3D2 = color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:windowtext'>University<= /span></font></st1:PlaceType><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial; color:windowtext'> of <st1:PlaceName w:st=3D"on">Sydney</st1:PlaceName> = NSW 2006 <st1:place w:st=3D"on"><st1:country-region = w:st=3D"on">Australia</st1:country-region></st1:place></span></font><font= color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'color:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:windowtext'>Tel. +612 9351 5267 Skype = densilcabrera</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'color:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:windowtext'>Fax. +612 9351 3031 <a href=3D"mailto:densil@xxxxxxxx" = title=3D"mailto:densil@xxxxxxxx">densil@xxxxxxxx</a></span></font><= font color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'color:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:windowtext'><a href=3D"http://www.arch.usyd.edu.au/~densil/" title=3D"http://www.arch.usyd.edu.au/~densil/">www.arch.usyd.edu.au/~dens= il/</a> </span></font><font color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'color:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3D2 = color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p>= </span></font></p> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal><span class=3Dgmailquote><font size=3D3 = color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>On 17/09/2007, = <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>pieter jan stallen</span></b> &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:pj.stallen@xxxxxxxx">pj.stallen@xxxxxxxx</a>&gt; = wrote:</span></font></span> <o:p></o:p></p> <div> <div> <p style=3D'margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=3D3 = color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Dear = List,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p style=3D'margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=3D3 = color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Does anyone = know of&nbsp; experimental psychological data reported which refutes (or not) the&nbsp;hypothesis: the perception of object O as &quot;has <i><span style=3D'font-style:italic'>much</span></i> of quality X&quot; = predisposes to the perception also of &quot;has <i><span = style=3D'font-style:italic'>much</span></i> of quality Y&quot;? E.g., is there empirical evidence for cross-modal = bonds like &quot;large objects (much of size) are loud objects (much of = sound)&quot; ? <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p style=3D'margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=3D3 = color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Although I see = brain research approaching the subject (e.g. &nbsp;<a href=3D"http://www.dhushara.com/pdf/synesthesia.pdf" = target=3D"_blank"><font color=3Dpurple><span = style=3D'color:purple'>http://www.dhushara.com/pdf/synesthesia.pdf </span></font></a>) I have not (yet) found so much empirical psychology = about such metaphors. I may not have studied carefully enough the synaestesia literature, but appreciate any more specific 'forwardings' = then.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p style=3D'margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=3D3 = color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Pieter Jan = Stallen / Chair Community Noise Annoyance / <st1:PlaceType = w:st=3D"on">University</st1:PlaceType> of <st1:PlaceName w:st=3D"on">Leiden</st1:PlaceName> / <st1:place = w:st=3D"on"><st1:country-region = w:st=3D"on">Netherlands</st1:country-region></st1:place><o:p></o:p></span= ></font></p> </div> </div> </div> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New = Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><br> <br clear=3Dall> <br> -- <br> Dr Jan Schnupp<br> <st1:place w:st=3D"on"><st1:PlaceType = w:st=3D"on">University</st1:PlaceType> of <st1:PlaceName w:st=3D"on">Oxford</st1:PlaceName></st1:place><br> Dept. of Physiology, Anatomy and Genetics<br> <st1:place w:st=3D"on"><st1:PlaceName = w:st=3D"on">Sherrington</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceType w:st=3D"on">Building</st1:PlaceType></st1:place> - <st1:Street = w:st=3D"on"><st1:address w:st=3D"on">Parks Road</st1:address></st1:Street><br> <st1:City w:st=3D"on">Oxford</st1:City> OX1 3PT - <st1:place = w:st=3D"on"><st1:country-region w:st=3D"on">UK</st1:country-region></st1:place><br> +44-1865-272513<br> <a href=3D"http://www.oxfordhearing.com/">www.oxfordhearing.com</a> = <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3D3 = color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><br> <br> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <pre><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier New"><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>-- <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier New"><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Dr. Bob = Carlyon<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier New"><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>MRC Cognition &amp; Brain Sciences = Unit<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><st1:Street w:st=3D"on"><st1:address w:st=3D"on"><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack = face=3D"Courier New"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>15 Chaucer = Rd.</span></font></st1:address></st1:Street><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><st1:pl= ace w:st=3D"on"><st1:City w:st=3D"on"><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack = face=3D"Courier New"><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Cambridge</span></font></st1:City></st1:place>= CB2 7EF<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><st1:place w:st=3D"on"><st1:country-region w:st=3D"on"><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier New"><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>England</span></font></st1:country-region></st= 1:place><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier New"><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></pre><pre><fon= t size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier New"><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Phone: +44 1223 355294 ext = 651<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier New"><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Fax:&nbsp;&nbsp; +44 1223 = 359062<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier New"><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'><a href=3D"http://www.mrc-cbu.cam.ac.uk/">www.mrc-cbu.cam.ac.uk</a><o:p></o:= p></span></font></pre></div> </div> </body> </html> ------_=_NextPart_001_01C7FA6F.4013D76B--


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