Re: How much is needed for sound identification ? (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Sylvain_Cl=E9ment?=)


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Date:    Thu, 13 Sep 2007 15:06:15 +0200
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<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <meta content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type"> </head> <body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> Thanks for all that fast answers !<br> <br> The Murray (2006) paper seems quite interesting because it suggest that some semantic information was extracted from spectrotemporal patterns quite early.<br> <br> <br> Brian Gygi wrote :<br> <blockquote type="cite">There was a study involving time course of identification of environmental scenes that was presented at a conference.&nbsp; I am away from the office until next week, but I can provide the link then.</blockquote> Are you talking about this one ? <br> <pre wrap="">Recognition of Everyday Auditory Scenes: Potentials, Latencies and Cues Vesa T. K. Peltonen and Antti J. Eronen and Mikko P. Parviainen and Anssi P. Klapuri Proceedings of the 110th Audio Engineering Society Convention May, 2001</pre> <br> It seems that the semantic level (in a semantic tree) of the question asked to the participant was never taken into account in hearing studies. Am I wrong ? In vision studies, this factor (base category, super-ordonate category...)&nbsp; seems to modulates&nbsp; the results depending on the task used (lexical verification, rapide search...).<br> <br> <br> Sylvain Cl&eacute;ment<br> <br> <br> <br> Brian Gygi a &eacute;crit&nbsp;: <blockquote cite="mid:W853021091158011189686045@xxxxxxxx" type="cite"><br> Ballas (1993) measured identification of environmental sounds that were truncated to 700 ms.&nbsp; He found they were quite well identified, but he did not measure the time course - rather he measured reaction time, which varied quite a bit.<br> <br> <font size="-1"><font size="3"><b>Ballas</b>, J. A. "Common Factors in the Identification of an Assortment of <b>Brief</b> Everyday <b>Sounds</b>." <b>J</b>. Exp. Psych.: Hum. Percep. &amp; Perf. 19 (1993): 250--26<br> </font><br> </font>In my environmental studies I have tried to edit sounds so that they were the briefest possible duration and still easily identifiable in pilot studies.&nbsp; I found quite a range of times needed - some complex events, like a bowling ball rolling down a lane, or a tree falling, have quite extended times courses (&gt; 3 s) needed to provide all the information necessary.<br> <br> There was a study involving time course of identification of environmental scenes that was presented at a conference.&nbsp; I am away from the office until next week, but I can provide the link then.<br> <br> Brian Gygi<br> <br> <br> <br> &gt;-----Original Message-----<br> &gt;From: Sylvain Cl&eacute;ment [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:sylvain.clement@xxxxxxxx">mailto:sylvain.clement@xxxxxxxx</a>]<br> &gt;Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 06:49 AM<br> &gt;To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx">AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx</a><br> &gt;Subject: How much is needed for sound identification ?<br> &gt;<br> &gt;Dear List members,<br> &gt;<br> &gt;We are currently running several experiments on environmental sounds <br> &gt;identification vs image identification.<br> &gt;<br> &gt;The literature in hearing seems to be quite poor whereas a lot of work <br> &gt;have been done in the visual domain.<br> &gt;<br> &gt;Does anybody have know studies that tried to measure how long of a sound <br> &gt;is needed to get the identification of the sound ("it's a bird") or get <br> &gt;it's super-ordonate category ("it's an animal") ?<br> &gt;<br> &gt;<br> &gt;Thanks in advance for any references.<br> &gt;<br> &gt;<br> &gt;Sylvain Cl&eacute;ment<br> &gt;Neuropsychology &amp; Auditory Cognition Team<br> &gt;Lille, France<br> &gt;<br> &gt;-- <br> &gt;Sylvain CLEMENT (MCF)<br> &gt;JE Neuropsychologie et Cognition Auditive (JE 2497)<br> &gt;UFR de Psychologie<br> &gt;BP 60149, Universite Ch. de Gaulle Lille 3<br> &gt;Domaine universitaire "Pont de Bois"<br> &gt;59 653 Villeneuve d'ascq Cedex<br> &gt;FRANCE<br> &gt;<br> &gt;tel : (03 20 41) 64 42<br> &gt;<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://nca.recherche.univ-lille3.fr">http://nca.recherche.univ-lille3.fr</a><br> &gt;</blockquote> <br> <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">-- Sylvain CLEMENT (MCF) JE Neuropsychologie et Cognition Auditive (JE 2497) UFR de Psychologie BP 60149, Universit&Egrave; Ch. de Gaulle Lille 3 Domaine universitaire "Pont de Bois" 59 653 Villeneuve d'ascq Cedex FRANCE t&Egrave;l : (03 20 41) 64 42 <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://nca.recherche.univ-lille3.fr">http://nca.recherche.univ-lille3.fr</a></pre> </body> </html>


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