Subject: Re: environmental non-noises From: "Ballas, Jim (CIV, NRL)" <james.ballas@xxxxxxxx> Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 15:48:25 -0400 List-Archive:<http://lists.mcgill.ca/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=AUDITORY>This idea does make sense, and there have been several studies on it. Two examples: 1. Cummings et. al, (2006). Auditory semantic networks for words and natural sounds, Brain Research, 1115, 92-107. 2. Lebrun et al. (2001). An ERD mapping study of the neurocognitive processes involved in the perceptual and semantic analysis of environmental sounds and words. Cognitive Brain Research, 11, 235-248. In general the process they used didn't distort meaningful sounds, but measure the meaningfullness of the sounds, and then pick sounds that are on opposite ends of the scaleing results. Jim > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 13:51:53 +0100 > From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Honbolyg=F3_Ferenc?= <hf@xxxxxxxx> > Subject: environmental non-noises > > Dear List members, > > We are currently working on an experiment about the semantical=20 > processing of environmental noises. We are trying to do a similar task=20 > as the lexical decision task with words and nonwords, but with=20 > environmental noises and "non-noises". The problem is that we have a=20 > hard time creating non-noises which are quite environmental noise-like,=20 > but are not recognizable. We tried almost every distortion methods used=20 > in the literature (reversing, spectrally-rotating, scrambling the parts)=20 > but the sounds are always pretty much recognizable by most people. > Does anyone have any idea on how to create such non-recognizable=20 > non-noises based on existing environmental noises? Or is this idea just=20 > not feasible, because people will always think that what they heard is=20 > something real? > Thanks, > Ferenc Honbolyg=F3 > > --=20 > Ferenc Honbolyg=F3 > > Research Institute for Psychology, HAS > Department of Psychophysiology > Research Group of Developmental Psychophysiology > H-1394 Budapest, P.O.Box 398. > > Web: http://humlab.cogpsyphy.hu/ > E-mail: hf@xxxxxxxx > Tel: +361 354-2390 > Fax: +361 354-2416 > > ------------------------------ >