Subject: Re: harmonic vs. inharmonic sounds (one last time) From: Kevin Austin <kevin.austin@xxxxxxxx> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 06:55:23 -0400 List-Archive:<http://lists.mcgill.ca/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=AUDITORY>Thanks I think my question is ... Do "you" perceive and/or hear, rather than the third person neutral. Perhaps this is why I'm a composer and not a scientist, I'm more interested in "you" then 'the' "them". Best Kevin >Hello Kevin, > >Yes, I think. If the mentioned sine-tones are soft, then 100 Hz is >heard as a "cubic" difference tone, f = 2f_1 - f_2; example: f_1 = >200 Hz; f_2 = 300 Hz; f = 100 Hz. If the sine-tones are louder, 100 >Hz is heard as a first-order difference tone, f = f_2 - f_1; >example: f_1 = 200 Hz; f_2 = 300 Hz; f 100 Hz. > >Reinhart. > >Reinhart Frosch, >Dr. phil. nat., >r. PSI and ETH Zurich, >Sommerhaldenstr. 5B, >CH-5200 Brugg. >Phone: 0041 56 441 77 72. >Mobile: 0041 79 754 30 32. >E-mail: reinifrosch@xxxxxxxx . and <al.bregman@xxxxxxxx> wrote: >Whenever a repetitive waveform is played (i.e. one whose partials are >all harmonics), we hear the pitch that is characteristic of that >repetition rate. > >... > >Therefore, we shouldn't think of your complex tone as containing a >100-Hz pure tone. It is just that they both have the same pitch. >>----Ursprüngliche Nachricht---- >>Von: kevin.austin@xxxxxxxx >>Datum: 16.03.2007 03:26 >>An: <AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx> >>Betreff: harmonic vs. inharmonic sounds (one last time) >> >>On reconsideration, I would reframe the question something as: >> >>When hearing the partials 200, 300, 400, 500, 600, 700, do you >>perceive the fundamental to be 100 Hz? Do you hear a 100 Hz >>component? >> >>Best >> >>Kevin