Subject: Re: Five string bass From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Ole_K=FChl?= <kyhl@xxxxxxxx> Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 16:26:24 +0100 List-Archive:<http://lists.mcgill.ca/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=AUDITORY>Dear Roy A musician's "ear" is a metaphor for the whole faculty of hearing. Of course musicians are not able to surpass biological constraints, but training does develop hearing (if not, all ear training in conservatories is wasted). Anyway I agree with you that more research in this area would be welcome. Best wishes Ole Kühl kyhl@xxxxxxxx www.cogmus.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roy Patterson" <rdp1@xxxxxxxx> To: "Ole Kühl" <kyhl@xxxxxxxx> Cc: <AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 2:52 PM Subject: Re: [AUDITORY] Five string bass > Ole Kühl wrote: >> >> Possibly, musicians with their highly trained ears are simply capable of >> hearing more than non-musicians? > It is unlikely that it is the ears that are trained. It is more likely to > be the brain, or the use of words to describe perceptions. But to begin > with we need to understand just what it is that trained musicians can do > with low notes that the rest of us can't. > > Do you really think they can reliably make finer pitch discriminations? > I understand that they think they can, but is it true of the population of > trained musicians? And if it is true, is it a big difference? > If so, someone should try and demonstrate just how much better they are. > > Regards Roy P > >> Ole Kühl >> kyhl@xxxxxxxx <mailto:kyhl@xxxxxxxx> >> www.cogmus.com <http://www.cogmus.com> > > > -- > * ** *** * ** *** * ** *** * ** *** * ** *** * > Roy D. Patterson > Centre for the Neural Basis of Hearing > Department of Physiology, Development and Neuroscience > University of Cambridge > Downing Street, Cambridge, CB2 3EG > > http://www.pdn.cam.ac.uk/cnbh/ > phone: +44 (1223) 333819 office > fax: +44 (1223) 333840 department > email rdp1@xxxxxxxx or > roy.patterson@xxxxxxxx >