Subject: Re: Minimum duration required in a sinusoid to hear pitch From: Richard Pastore <pastore@xxxxxxxx> Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 16:33:20 -0500--=====================_20987390==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Jim Beauchamp's note about his responses not getting circulated made me think that the following also did not get circulated. >Originally sent on Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 11:33:11 -0500 >To: AUDITORY Research in Auditory Perception <AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx> >From: Richard Pastore <pastore@xxxxxxxx> >Subject: Re: Minimum duration required in a sinusoid to hear pitch > > Massimo has already provided the references to Roy Patterson's work, > which is the more recent. Most people don't bother looking at the > classic work , but there was some excellent work done by early > researchers. The classic work on duration threshold for pitch is listed > below. > Don't forget that the spectrum of a segment of a sinusoid is not a > single frequency, but a sinc function whose bandwidth is inversely > proportional to duration. There is a discussion of this in Licklider's > classic chapter in Stevens' Handbook from the 1950s. > Dick Pastore > > >Doughty, J. M., & Garner, W. R. (1947). Pitch characteristics of >short tones. I. Two kinds of pitch thresholds. Journal of Experimental >Psychology, 37, 351-365. >Doughty, J. M., & Garner, W. R. (1948). Pitch characteristics of >short tones. II. Pitch as a function of tone duration. Journal of >Experimental Psychology, 38, 478-494. > > >> ---- ---------------------- >> -------------------------------------------------- >> >>>I would like to know if there exists some research done about the >>>minimum duration that a sinusoid has to have in order to hear pitch. >>>Any reference to related literature will be highly appreciated. >> >>as far as I know there are two works but the timbre was complex: >> >>Robinson, K.L. and Patterson, R.D. (1995) "The duration required to identify >>the instrument, the octave, or the pitch-chroma of a musical note," Music >>Perception 13, 1-15. >> >>Robinson, K.L. and Patterson, R.D. (1995) "The stimulus duration required to >>identify vowels, their octave, and their pitch-chroma," J. Acoust. Soc. >>Am. 98, >>1858-1865. >> >>The interesting result is that, when compared to vision, the auditory system >>extracts first complex features (i.e. timbre) and later simple features (i.e. >>octave and chroma). It seems that the visual system operates in the opposite >>way (e.g. Marr, 1982): first simple features then complex features. >> >>I hope this helps, >>m >> >>******************** >>Massimo Grassi - PhD >>Laboratorio di Psicologia >>Via Petracco 8 - 33100 Udine - Italy >>http://www.psy.unipd.it/~grassi >> >>---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>SEMEL (SErvizio di Messaging ELettronico) - CSIT -Universita' di Udine Richard E. Pastore Professor of Psychology Psychology Department Binghamton University (SUNY) Binghamton, NY 13902-6000 http://bingweb.binghamton.edu/~pastore --=====================_20987390==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" <html> <font size=3>Jim Beauchamp's note about his responses not getting circulated made me think that the following also did not get circulated.<br><br> <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>Originally sent on Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 11:33:11 -0500<br> To: AUDITORY Research in Auditory Perception <AUDITORY@xxxxxxxx><br> From: Richard Pastore <pastore@xxxxxxxx><br> Subject: Re: Minimum duration required in a sinusoid to hear pitch<br><br> Massimo has already provided the references to Roy Patterson's work, which is the more recent. Most people don't bother looking at the classic work , but there was some excellent work done by early researchers. The classic work on duration threshold for pitch is listed below. </font><br> <font size=3> Don't forget that the spectrum of a segment of a sinusoid is not a single frequency, but a sinc function whose bandwidth is inversely proportional to duration. There is a discussion of this in Licklider's classic chapter in Stevens' Handbook from the 1950s.<br> <x-tab> </x-tab>Dick Pastore<br><br> <br> Doughty, J. M., & Garner, W. R. (1947). Pitch characteristics of short tones. I. Two kinds of pitch thresholds. <i>Journal of Experimental Psychology, 37,</i> 351-365.<br> Doughty, J. M., & Garner, W. R. (1948). Pitch characteristics of short tones. II. Pitch as a function of tone duration. <i>Journal of Experimental Psychology, 38,</i> 478-494.<br><br> <br> <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite><x-tab> </x-tab>---- ---------------------- --------------------------------------------------<br><br> <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>I would like to know if there exists some research done about the<br> minimum duration that a sinusoid has to have in order to hear pitch.<br> Any reference to related literature will be highly appreciated.</blockquote><br> as far as I know there are two works but the timbre was complex:<br><br> Robinson, K.L. and Patterson, R.D. (1995) "The duration required to identify<br> the instrument, the octave, or the pitch-chroma of a musical note," Music<br> Perception 13, 1-15.<br><br> Robinson, K.L. and Patterson, R.D. (1995) "The stimulus duration required to<br> identify vowels, their octave, and their pitch-chroma," J. Acoust. Soc. Am. 98,<br> 1858-1865.<br><br> The interesting result is that, when compared to vision, the auditory system<br> extracts first complex features (i.e. timbre) and later simple features (i.e.<br> octave and chroma). It seems that the visual system operates in the opposite<br> way (e.g. Marr, 1982): first simple features then complex features.<br><br> I hope this helps,<br> m<br><br> ********************<br> Massimo Grassi - PhD<br> Laboratorio di Psicologia<br> Via Petracco 8 - 33100 Udine - Italy<br> <a href="http://www.psy.unipd.it/~grassi" eudora="autourl">http://www.psy.unipd.it/~grassi</a><br> <br> ----------------------------------------------------------------------<br> SEMEL (SErvizio di Messaging ELettronico) - CSIT -Universita' di Udine</blockquote></blockquote> <x-sigsep><p></x-sigsep> Richard E. Pastore<br> Professor of Psychology<br> Psychology Department<br> Binghamton University (SUNY)<br> Binghamton, NY 13902-6000<br> <a href="http://bingweb.binghamton.edu/~pastore" eudora="autourl">http://bingweb.binghamton.edu/~pastore</a> <br> </font></html> --=====================_20987390==_.ALT--