Subject: Re: AUDITORY Digest - 18 Feb 2006 to 19 Feb 2006 (#2006-37) From: Eleni Lapidaki <lapidaki@xxxxxxxx> Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 14:34:25 +0200--Apple-Mail-12-1070391601 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; delsp=yes; format=flowed Dear Stefan, thank you for mentioning Pierre Schaeffer. I also use his ideas about =20= sound objects and reduced listening in my courses both in music =20 psychology and music education. i would appreciate if you could send =20 me any information you have about Pierre Scheffer's Sound Objects. =20 Thanks a lot. all the best, eleni ****************** Eleni Lapidaki, PhD. Assistant Professor of Music, Music Department, Aristotle University of Thessaloniki, 54124 Thessaloniki, Greece. On 20 =CE=A6=CE=B5=CE=B2 2006, at 1:40 =CE=9C=CE=9C, Stefan Buttona = wrote: > Dear Superk, > > there is a musical tone model called the "sound object". It's a =20 > general scheme for sound description and was created by Pierre =20 > Schaeffer, a french composer. Pierre Schaeffer worked in a sound =20 > lab and researched on this topic in order to find a sound =20 > description scheme that is independent from subjective hearing =20 > experience. He describes the "reduced listening", a listening mode, =20= > which is hard to learn but enables you to describe the sound in a =20 > very general way. It deals with terms like "mass", "grain", =20 > "sharpness", ... > Unfortunately it is quite hard to find some good information on the =20= > internet. So, if you are interested in Pierre Scheffer's Sound =20 > Objects, just let me know. > > Best wishes from Mannheim, Germany, > Stefan > > >> >> Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 13:44:29 +0800 >> From: superk <intel_ghost@xxxxxxxx> >> Subject: rule about musical tone's shape >> >> Dear List, >> >> Are there some common shapes of musical tone, that is, relative =20 >> amplitude >> of tone's harmonics, especially of instruments? I wanna use such =20 >> knowledge >> to design a musical tone model. Some good references will be =20 >> greatly appreciated! >> >> Superk (Kun She) >> intel_ghost@xxxxxxxx >> 2006-02-19 >> ----------------------------------------------- >> Ask, it will be given you; >> Search, you will find; >> Knock, the door will be opened for you. >> >> ------------------------------ --Apple-Mail-12-1070391601 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 <HTML><BODY style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; = -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; ">Dear Stefan,<DIV><BR = class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder"><DIV><SPAN = class=3D"Apple-style-span">thank you for mentioning Pierre Schaeffer. I = also use his ideas about <I>sound objects</I> and <I>reduced</I> = <I>listening</I> in my courses both in music psychology and music = education. i would appreciate if you could send me any information you = have about=C2=A0Pierre Scheffer's Sound Objects. Thanks a = lot.</SPAN></DIV><DIV><BR = class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><SPAN = class=3D"Apple-style-span">all the best,</SPAN></DIV><DIV><SPAN = class=3D"Apple-style-span">eleni</SPAN></DIV><DIV><BR = class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><SPAN = class=3D"Apple-style-span">******************</SPAN></DIV><DIV><SPAN = class=3D"Apple-style-span">Eleni Lapidaki, PhD.</SPAN></DIV><DIV><SPAN = class=3D"Apple-style-span">Assistant Professor of = Music,</SPAN></DIV><DIV><SPAN class=3D"Apple-style-span">Music = Department,</SPAN></DIV><DIV><SPAN class=3D"Apple-style-span">Aristotle = University of Thessaloniki,</SPAN></DIV><DIV><SPAN = class=3D"Apple-style-span">54124 Thessaloniki,</SPAN></DIV><DIV><SPAN = class=3D"Apple-style-span">Greece.</SPAN></DIV><DIV><SPAN = class=3D"Apple-style-span"><BR><DIV><DIV>On 20 =CE=A6=CE=B5=CE=B2 2006, = at 1:40 =CE=9C=CE=9C, Stefan Buttona wrote:</DIV><BR = class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type=3D"cite"><DIV>Dear = Superk,</DIV><DIV><BR></DIV><DIV>there is a musical tone model called = the "sound object". It's a general scheme for sound description and was = created by Pierre Schaeffer, a french composer. Pierre Schaeffer worked = in a sound lab and researched on this topic in order to find a sound = description scheme that is independent from subjective hearing = experience. He describes the "reduced listening", a listening mode, = which is hard to learn but enables you to describe the sound in a very = general way. It deals with terms like "mass", "grain", "sharpness", = ...</DIV><DIV>Unfortunately it is quite hard to find some good = information on the internet. So, if you are interested in Pierre = Scheffer's Sound Objects, just let me = know.</DIV><DIV><BR></DIV><DIV>Best wishes from Mannheim, = Germany,</DIV><DIV>Stefan</DIV><DIV><BR></DIV><DIV><BR></DIV> = <BLOCKQUOTE type=3D"cite"><DIV><BR></DIV><DIV>Date:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Sun, 19 = Feb 2006 13:44:29 +0800</DIV><DIV>From:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 superk <<A = href=3D"mailto:intel_ghost@xxxxxxxx">intel_ghost@xxxxxxxx</A>></DIV><DI= V>Subject: rule about musical tone's shape</DIV><DIV><BR></DIV><DIV>Dear = List,</DIV><DIV><BR></DIV><DIV>Are there some common shapes of musical = tone, that is, relative amplitude</DIV><DIV>of tone's harmonics, = especially of instruments? I wanna use such knowledge</DIV><DIV>to = design a musical tone model. Some good references will be greatly = appreciated!</DIV><DIV><BR></DIV><DIV>Superk (Kun She)</DIV><DIV><A = href=3D"mailto:intel_ghost@xxxxxxxx">intel_ghost@xxxxxxxx</A></DIV><DIV>20= 06-02-19</DIV><DIV>-----------------------------------------------</DIV><D= IV>Ask, it will be given you;</DIV><DIV><SPAN class=3D"Apple-tab-span" = style=3D"white-space:pre"> </SPAN>Search, you will = find;</DIV><DIV><SPAN class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre"> = </SPAN><SPAN class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre"> = </SPAN>Knock, the door will be opened for = you.</DIV><DIV><BR></DIV><DIV>------------------------------</DIV> = </BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR></SPAN></DIV></DIV></BODY></HTML>= --Apple-Mail-12-1070391601--