Subject: Re: Rhythm perception From: "Vermiglio, Andy" <AVermiglio(at)HEI.ORG> Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 16:05:35 -0800In some forms of Fusion jazz it is desirable to "go over the bar line." The illusion is that the first beat in the measure has been shifted to another part of the bar. "You can stretch 4/4 like a Gumby." --Vinnie Colaiuta -----Original Message----- From: AUDITORY Research in Auditory Perception [mailto:AUDITORY(at)LISTS.MCGILL.CA] On Behalf Of Linda Seltzer Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 10:44 AM To: AUDITORY(at)LISTS.MCGILL.CA Subject: Re: Rhythm perception One possible difference between musicians and non-musicians: Musicians will tend to be aware of the style of the music and will then superimpose previously learned knowldege of how that type of music "goes." A non-musician may be less inclined to match a current listening experience with previously learned styles. Specifically, in Indian music or African music or jazz, experienced musicians have learned ideas of what to listen for in order to know where they are in the rhythm. It could be informative to determine when such musicians are successful in "throwing off" the listener. This would mean that the musician "crosses over a line" between intelligible meter and confusing cross-rhythms. One example is the drumming from Benin in the CD set for the textbook entitled Listen.