Subject: Re: AUDITORY Digest - 22 Jun 2005 (#2005-123) From: Paul Doornbusch <pauld(at)KONCON.NL> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:12:13 +1000no, Kevin is right, the attachment came through _mangled_ to the digest, totally unusable and a waste of bandwidth and space. I had no option but to delete the various parts it arrrived in. a downloadable ling is much preferable. >There are 6 messages totalling 202 lines in this issue. > >Topics of the day: > > 1. Attachments > 2. attachments (5) > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:51:47 -0400 >From: Kevin Austin <kevin.austin(at)VIDEOTRON.CA> >Subject: Attachments > >Please don't send attachments to the list. The digest mangles them. >Today there was 14,000 lines (!! - over a million characters) of: > >XlaLTZbpRduBghXGMkc7d5Chzngc5+UVo9iUfWUaRIkcahURQqqowAB2ArMo4r4uf8AIlapwBfGn= >f+lMdNbgcB4M+F2jKtHj1a8vbmGWeePbGsW3bGxUEbkY9vXKbeoj0Twd8O9G8G3d3eWd1PNJcwrC= >Vl8vAAOeNqLz9c0mxnZUgCgAoAKACgAoAACgAoAKACgAoAKACgAoAKACgAoAKACgAoAKACgAoAKA= >CgAoAKACgAoAKgAAKACgAoAKACgAoAKACgAoA5Hx0B/ZF9R/6EKqO4M8irQgKAFpiFpAApgLQBZ0= >AIbTr4jmKTA0/XAU8n2psg1NRLfZ2CDLEYGaBs8d8KcX3THNUB7XFq03RUFD6ACgAoAKACgAoAKA= >CgAoKACgAoAKACgAoAKACgAoAKACgAoAKACgAoAKACgAoAKAEZtoJxn0HrQA1UG4uSSxAHU4AGcc= >Zxnnn1oAaysj+Y3SMMvqcjn8BQA/zIygk3DYQCDng5oA4fxV4m8WWmrWOn+G9W8MhC30jK7JaKQj= >Psb1OAG4qOoyDQB0a+HdMndZ9TjS/uRuIedFKx7hg+WuMKCODjkjG5mxQBfsrW1soEtbaJYoYflR= >=46GAB14/r70A7cShgo+ZCGOOeDxzn3PY/h3AG3D+WincFzLEuSQ > >-- > > >Kevin Austin > > > >Associate-Professor (Music) / (EuCuE) >Department of Music (Electroacoustic Studies) >=46aculty of Fine Arts >Concordia University >7141, rue Sherbrooke o >Montreal, QC >CANADA H4B 1R6 > > 514 =AD 848 =AD 2424 x4709 > 514 =AD 848 =AD 2424 x4705 (message only) > >fax: 514 =AD 848 =AD 2808 > > >kevin.austin(at)videotron.ca > >------------------------------ > >Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:49:10 -0400 >From: Fred Herzfeld <herzfeld(at)ALUM.MIT.EDU> >Subject: Re: attachments > >Hi Kevin Austin and list, > >I have never had any problems with attachments. Some attachments like >the papers distributed by David Janiger on the MARMAR list open by them >selves if you click on the attachment, others must first be saved to >your computer and then opened with Adobe PDF Reader (free). But please >do not tell this list or any other not to send or receive attachments. >The file you obviously could not open was in fact easily opened by >saving to memory and then opening with the Adobe Reader. > >Fred >-- >Fred Herzfeld, MIT '54 >78 Glynn Marsh Drive #59 >Brunswick, Ga.31525 >USA > >------------------------------ > >Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:23:48 -0400 >From: Dan Ellis <dpwe(at)EE.COLUMBIA.EDU> >Subject: Re: attachments > >>> I have never had any problems with attachments. > >It depends whether or not you are reading the list in 'digest' mode >(which is an option on your AUDITORY information page, URL in the email >you received when you first subscribed). If you receive each posting as >a separate message, attachments probably work fine. But if you receive >the once-daily 'digest', where all messages are run together, many mail >reading programs will not be able to parse them apart and pick out >individual attachments, but instead show the binary-coded attachement >as very large blocks of text. > >For this reason, it's better to send only plain text ascii to the list, >and reference other files by including URLs if possible. If there's a >file that you'd like to publish but you don't have a web site to put it >on, you can send it to me and I can host it on www.auditory.org. > >-- DAn Ellis <dpwe(at)ee.columbia.edu> http://www.ee.columbia.edu/~dpwe/ > Dept. of Elec. Eng., Columbia Univ., New York NY 10027 (212) 854-8928 > >------------------------------ > >Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:47:00 -0500 >From: beaucham <beaucham(at)MANFRED.MUSIC.UIUC.EDU> >Subject: Re: attachments > >I disagree. Attachments are an annoyance. I log on remotely to >a Linux machine via a terminal app and attachments invariably >cannot be read easily. Also, most attachments can be rendered >just as easily in text, avoiding the extra steps. > >Jim Beauchamp >Univ. of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign >Urbana, Illinois USA > >Original message: >>From: Fred Herzfeld <herzfeld(at)ALUM.MIT.EDU> >>Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:49:10 -0400 >>To: AUDITORY(at)LISTS.MCGILL.CA >>Subject: Re: attachments >> >>Hi Kevin Austin and list, >> >>I have never had any problems with attachments. Some attachments like >>the papers distributed by David Janiger on the MARMAR list open by them >>selves if you click on the attachment, others must first be saved to >>your computer and then opened with Adobe PDF Reader (free). But please >>do not tell this list or any other not to send or receive attachments. >>The file you obviously could not open was in fact easily opened by >>saving to memory and then opening with the Adobe Reader. >> >>Fred >>-- >>Fred Herzfeld, MIT '54 >>78 Glynn Marsh Drive #59 >>Brunswick, Ga.31525 >>USA > >------------------------------ > >Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:49:35 -0700 >From: Jim Stevenson <jims(at)EOS.ARC.NASA.GOV> >Subject: Re: attachments > >unix mail can only mime unpack attached html with cumbersom difficulty. > >Woorse, blind scientists can often not read adobe pdf at all, >and when they can, they must use Winblow$ with special programs, >not unix mail. > >-- > >If you must quote me, please put your comments first. >I have already listened to mine. > >I read email with speech. >So it is not possible to scroll past the quotes without listening to >them again, >to quickly get to the new information. > > >Thanks much again as always. >Jim > >------------------------------ > >Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:50:37 -0700 >From: Jim Stevenson <jims(at)EOS.ARC.NASA.GOV> >Subject: Re: attachments > >What was the original subject of this post? > >Do you know of any way to filter email by subject when the usual subject line >contains only a digest number? > >This is why it helps those of us who need to sort email at work, >to use the original subject line, >as long as it remains relevant, >instead of the digest number, which tells little. >Using digest as a subject kills my ability to sort and read by subject! > >-- > >If you must quote me, please put your comments first. >I have already listened to mine. > >I read email with speech. >So it is not possible to scroll past the quotes without listening to >them again, >to quickly get to the new information. > > >Thanks much again as always. > > >-- > >If you must quote me, please put your comments first. >I have already listened to mine. > >I read email with speech. >So it is not possible to scroll past the quotes without listening to >them again, >to quickly get to the new information. > > >Thanks much again as always. >Jim > >------------------------------ > >End of AUDITORY Digest - 22 Jun 2005 (#2005-123) >************************************************