Subject: Re: AUDITORY Digest - 3 May 2005 to 4 May 2005 (#2005-87) From: ieish gamah <ieish(at)hotmail.com> Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 12:42:23 +0100<html><div style='background-color:'><DIV class=RTE> <P>Hello,</P> <P>We have been getting some nice results from the Edirol FireWire AudioCapture FA-101 external soundcard.</P> <P>Regards</P> <P>Ieish Gamah</P> <P><BR><BR> </P></DIV> <DIV></DIV>>From: Douglas Eck <eckdoug(at)IRO.UMONTREAL.CA> <DIV></DIV>>Reply-To: Douglas Eck <eckdoug(at)IRO.UMONTREAL.CA> <DIV></DIV>>To: AUDITORY(at)LISTS.MCGILL.CA <DIV></DIV>>Subject: Re: AUDITORY Digest - 3 May 2005 to 4 May 2005 (#2005-87) <DIV></DIV>>Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 05:42:37 -0400 <DIV></DIV>>MIME-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) <DIV></DIV>>Received: from torrent.cc.mcgill.ca ([132.206.27.49]) by mc4-f28.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Thu, 5 May 2005 04:01:24 -0700 <DIV></DIV>>Received: from mailscan3.cc.mcgill.ca (mailscan3.CC.McGill.CA [132.216.77.250])by torrent.cc.mcgill.ca (8.12.11/8.12.3) with ESMTP id j45AwDmx026580;Thu, 5 May 2005 06:58:35 -0400 <DIV></DIV>>Received: from lists.mcgill.ca (lists.McGill.CA [132.206.27.99])by mailscan3.cc.mcgill.ca (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id j45AuVZF029115;Thu, 5 May 2005 06:57:02 -0400 (EDT) <DIV></DIV>>Received: from lists (lists.McGill.CA) by lists.mcgill.ca (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0004047A(at)lists.mcgill.ca>; Thu, 5 May 2005 6:56:30 -0400 <DIV></DIV>>Received: from LISTS.MCGILL.CA by LISTS.MCGILL.CA (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 7083341 for AUDITORY(at)LISTS.MCGILL.CA; Thu, 5 May 2005 06:56:09 -0400 <DIV></DIV>>Received: from torrent.cc.mcgill.ca by lists.mcgill.ca (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00040427(at)lists.mcgill.ca>; Thu, 5 May 2005 6:46:08 -0400 <DIV></DIV>>Received: from mailscan3.cc.mcgill.ca (mailscan3.CC.McGill.CA [132.216.77.250]) by torrent.cc.mcgill.ca (8.12.11/8.12.3) with ESMTP id j45Ak65R024780 for <auditory(at)lists.mcgill.ca>; Thu, 5 May 2005 06:46:08 -0400 <DIV></DIV>>Received: from asmx5.McGill.CA (asmx5.mcgill.ca [132.216.46.236]) by mailscan3.cc.mcgill.ca (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id j45Ak54v026682 for <auditory(at)lists.mcgill.ca>; Thu, 5 May 2005 06:46:05 -0400 (EDT) <DIV></DIV>>Received: from asmx5.McGill.CA (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 3A4B4BA000C for <auditory(at)lists.mcgill.ca>; Thu, 5 May 2005 06:45:53 -0400 (EDT) <DIV></DIV>>Received: from mercure.iro.umontreal.ca (mercure.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.24.67]) by asmx5.McGill.CA (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC9E7BA0007 for <auditory(at)lists.mcgill.ca>; Thu, 5 May 2005 06:45:52 -0400 (EDT) <DIV></DIV>>Received: from hidalgo.iro.umontreal.ca (hidalgo.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.50]) by mercure.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35769340017; Thu, 5 May 2005 06:46:05 -0400 (EDT) <DIV></DIV>>Received: from smtps.iro.umontreal.ca (merguez.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.24.30]) by hidalgo.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id C48204AC59F; Thu, 5 May 2005 05:42:37 -0400 (EDT) <DIV></DIV>>Received: from [192.168.0.101] (modemcable132.4-81-70.mc.videotron.ca [70.81.4.132]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtps.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68E0B1AF357; Thu, 5 May 2005 05:42:37 -0400 (EDT) <DIV></DIV>>X-Message-Info: QIy1oIULmHdP+vARJzbsyMYPZ1SkDb2Jy/kk6Fi082w= <DIV></DIV>>References: <200505050541.j455fOO0011174(at)mailscan1.cc.mcgill.ca> <DIV></DIV>>X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) <DIV></DIV>>X-DIRO-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information <DIV></DIV>>X-DIRO-MailScanner: Found to be clean <DIV></DIV>>X-DIRO-MailScanner-SpamCheck: n'est pas un polluriel (inscrit sur la liste blanche), SpamAssassin (score=-4.746, requis 5, autolearn=not spam, AWL 0.15, BAYES_00 -4.90) <DIV></DIV>>X-MailScanner-From: eckdoug(at)iro.umontreal.ca <DIV></DIV>>X-PMX-Version: 5.0.0.137324, Antispam-Engine: 2.0.3.1, Antispam-Data: 2005.5.5.5 <DIV></DIV>>X-PerlMx-Spam: Probability=7%, Report='__CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __HAS_X_MAILER 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0' <DIV></DIV>>Comments: cc: krkluend(at)WISC.EDU <DIV></DIV>>Return-Path: owner-auditory(at)LISTS.MCGILL.CA <DIV></DIV>>X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 May 2005 11:01:25.0200 (UTC) FILETIME=[C7947500:01C55161] <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV>>> <DIV></DIV>>>I am seeking advice on the best sound cards for PCs for both <DIV></DIV>>>recording <DIV></DIV>>>and <DIV></DIV>>>listening experiments. <DIV></DIV>>> <DIV></DIV>>>The primary requirement is S/N on input and output. I know that <DIV></DIV>>>long <DIV></DIV>>>ago, <DIV></DIV>>>Turtle Beach was a favorite, but I don't know what's best today. <DIV></DIV>>> <DIV></DIV>>>Thanks -- Keith <DIV></DIV>>> <DIV></DIV>>> <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV>>One nice option is to skip internal sound cards and use a firewire <DIV></DIV>>or <DIV></DIV>>USB interface. This means you can move the <DIV></DIV>>recording interface easily. For music creation this seems to have <DIV></DIV>>almost (though not quite!) entirely replaced PCI cards. <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV>>You could look at the Motu 828 if you need lots of I/O. That's what <DIV></DIV>>we're using. Also some McGill folks us it. <DIV></DIV>>A smaller popular unit is the MAudio Firewire 410. <DIV></DIV>>Also for USB there are many options. The Edirol UA-25 is ok. <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV>>Sweetwater's website is informative: www.sweetwater.com. Then <DIV></DIV>>search <DIV></DIV>>"motu 828" and "firewire 410" etc... <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV>>In any case, the quality of gear is very good right now. There's <DIV></DIV>>been <DIV></DIV>>an explosion in home music recording thanks to good sequencing <DIV></DIV>>software. This has forced manufacturers to offer good low-end <DIV></DIV>>"prosumer" gear. (A soundcard with good S/N and hi quality mic <DIV></DIV>>preamps <DIV></DIV>>is no longer <DIV></DIV>>something exotic.) Specs should be available online (S/N etc.) <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV>>PS If you happen to be an Apple user, they seem to recommend the <DIV></DIV>>M-Audio boxes (or maybe it's just a marketing agreement): <DIV></DIV>>http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/71608/ <DIV></DIV>>wo/5o5E9f1Hyw1n3Mhwzz1IFVRWSVx/1.3.0.6.16.4.1.2.3.3.1.1.0?11,6 <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV>>Good luck, <DIV></DIV>>Doug <DIV></DIV></div></html>