Subject: about separately recorded songs From: Yipeng Li <li.434(at)OSU.EDU> Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 00:50:03 -0400This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_lRJhHXCtE7h2iXa8ANgrSg) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Dear list, I am a graduate student in the computer science and engineering department, the Ohio state university. Currently I am carrying out a project which is to extract the vocal line (singing) out of a song, i.e. to remove the backing music. In order to develop such a system, I need recordings where the vocal and music are separately recorded. e.g., the vocal is in one track and the music is in another track (different instruments are not necessarily separately recorded). For all the recordings I can found, the vocal and the music are mixed and then stored in different channels. Karaoke is not useful since in Karaoke, the music is stored in one channel and the mixture of vocal and music, instead of the vocal alone, is stored in the other channel. I heard that in modern pop music industry, every instrument as well as vocal line is separately recorded. They are mixed before the release. Since it is difficult for me to access this kind of resource, I am wondering if there are other ways to get the recordings. To my knowledge, there is no common test database for the task. I intend to build a small one which might be used by other researchers in the future. The problem I am encountering is that I am not familiar with music therefore I can not determine representative samples for the database. I understand that singing, as speech, is extremely diverse, and such database might be beyond me. Nevertheless, I wish the list could give me some ideas about the construction of the database. Thank you for your attention. Yipeng Li Research Assistant Computer Science & Engineering The Ohio State University U. S. A. --Boundary_(ID_lRJhHXCtE7h2iXa8ANgrSg) Content-type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT <html xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:st1="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <head> <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> <meta name=ProgId content=Word.Document> <meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 10"> <meta name=Originator content="Microsoft Word 10"> <link rel=File-List href="cid:filelist.xml(at)01C46A05.AA416650"> <o:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="State"/> <o:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="country-region"/> <o:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="PlaceType"/> <o:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="PlaceName"/> <o:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="place"/> <!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:OfficeDocumentSettings> <o:DoNotRelyOnCSS/> </o:OfficeDocumentSettings> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:WordDocument> <w:DocumentKind>DocumentEmail</w:DocumentKind> <w:EnvelopeVis/> <w:Compatibility> <w:BreakWrappedTables/> <w:SnapToGridInCell/> <w:WrapTextWithPunct/> <w:UseAsianBreakRules/> <w:UseFELayout/> </w:Compatibility> <w:BrowserLevel>MicrosoftInternetExplorer4</w:BrowserLevel> </w:WordDocument> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if !mso]> <style> st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) } </style> <![endif]--> <style> <!-- /* Font Definitions */ (at)font-face {font-family:SimSun; panose-1:2 1 6 0 3 1 1 1 1 1; mso-font-alt:SimSun; mso-font-charset:134; mso-generic-font-family:auto; mso-font-pitch:variable; mso-font-signature:3 135135232 16 0 262145 0;} (at)font-face {font-family:SimSun; panose-1:2 1 6 0 3 1 1 1 1 1; mso-font-charset:134; mso-generic-font-family:auto; mso-font-pitch:variable; mso-font-signature:3 135135232 16 0 262145 0;} /* Style Definitions */ p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {mso-style-parent:""; margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family:SimSun;} a:link, span.MsoHyperlink {color:blue; text-decoration:underline; text-underline:single;} a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:purple; text-decoration:underline; text-underline:single;} p.MsoAutoSig, li.MsoAutoSig, div.MsoAutoSig {margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family:SimSun;} span.EmailStyle17 {mso-style-type:personal-compose; mso-style-noshow:yes; mso-ansi-font-size:12.0pt; mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt; font-family:Arial; mso-ascii-font-family:Arial; mso-hansi-font-family:Arial; mso-bidi-font-family:Arial; color:windowtext;} (at)page Section1 {size:8.5in 11.0in; margin:1.0in 1.25in 1.0in 1.25in; mso-header-margin:.5in; mso-footer-margin:.5in; mso-paper-source:0;} div.Section1 {page:Section1;} --> </style> <!--[if gte mso 10]> <style> /* Style Definitions */ table.MsoNormalTable {mso-style-name:"Table Normal"; mso-tstyle-rowband-size:0; mso-tstyle-colband-size:0; mso-style-noshow:yes; mso-style-parent:""; mso-padding-alt:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt; mso-para-margin:0in; mso-para-margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman";} </style> <![endif]--> </head> <body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple style='tab-interval:.5in'> <div class=Section1> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt; font-family:Arial'>Dear list,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt; font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt; font-family:Arial'>I am a graduate student in the computer science and engineering department, the </span></font><st1:State><st1:place><font face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial'>Ohio</span></font></st1:place></st1:State><font face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial'> state university. Currently I am carrying out a project which is to extract the vocal line (singing) out of a song, i.e. to remove the backing music. In order to develop such a system, I need recordings where the vocal and music are separately recorded. e.g., the vocal is in one track and the music is in another track (different instruments are not necessarily separately recorded). For all the recordings I can found, the vocal and the music are mixed and then stored in different channels. Karaoke is not useful since in Karaoke, the music is stored in one channel and the mixture of vocal and music, instead of the vocal alone, is stored in the other channel. I heard that in modern pop music industry, every instrument as well as vocal line is separately recorded. They are mixed before the release. Since it is difficult for me to access this kind of resource, I am wondering if there are other ways to get the recordings. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt; font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt; font-family:Arial'>To my knowledge, there is no common test database for the task. I intend to build a small one which might be used by other researchers in the future. The problem I am encountering is that I am not familiar with music therefore I can not determine representative samples for the database. I understand that singing, as speech, is extremely diverse, and such database might be beyond me. Nevertheless, I wish the list could give me some ideas about the construction of the database. Thank you for your attention.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt; font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt; font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=MsoAutoSig><font size=3 face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;mso-no-proof:yes'>Yipeng Li</span></font><span style='mso-no-proof:yes'><o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoAutoSig><font size=3 face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;mso-no-proof:yes'>Research Assistant</span></font><span style='mso-no-proof:yes'><o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoAutoSig><font size=3 face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;mso-no-proof:yes'>Computer Science & Engineering</span></font><span style='mso-no-proof:yes'><o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoAutoSig><font size=3 face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt; font-family:Arial;mso-no-proof:yes'>The </span></font><st1:place><st1:PlaceName><font face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial;mso-no-proof:yes'>Ohio</span></font></st1:PlaceName><font face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial;mso-no-proof:yes'> </span></font><st1:PlaceType><font face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial;mso-no-proof:yes'>State</span></font></st1:PlaceType><font face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial;mso-no-proof:yes'> </span></font><st1:PlaceType><font face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial;mso-no-proof:yes'>University</span></font></st1:PlaceType></st1:place><span style='mso-no-proof:yes'><o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoAutoSig><st1:country-region><st1:place><font size=3 face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;mso-no-proof:yes'>U. 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