Subject: Re: How many sources can humans perceive? / Number of co ncurrent From: David Hirst <d.hirst(at)UNIMELB.EDU.AU> Date: Tue, 4 May 2004 10:46:53 +1000Perhaps we need to think of 'degrees of streaming' and 'strategic processing'. Take the example of an orchestra playing. There are many separate sound sources but some are trying to play "in consort", eg. the 1st violins are seeking to play in unison. In listening to the 1st violins it is hard to separate the sound sources as they are forming a consolidated stream. If one of the violins is out of tune then we find it easier to isolate it since it has dropped out of the "consort stream". But what of the winds etc? They may be playing their own "consort stream" but when taken together with the strings they combine to form a "compound stream". At the level of the musical work we may isolate it as a "complex stream" and we can differentiate it from the traffic noises outside the concert hall and the coughing inside the concert hall. So there are degrees of "streamyness". So how might these degrees be operating? In many situations we are listening for a purpose. We have a listening strategy that may be conscious or sub-conscious. Strategic processing can shift the focus say from the street sounds to the orchestra sounds to the trombonist in the back row (visual strategies can reinforce aural ones or interfere if I can't see the player I want to focus on. I know you want to explore the extreme boundaries of the system, but the problem is that the strategic processing considerations will get in the way of any experimental design. ...my 2c's worth... David At 01:08 PM 3/05/2004 -0500, you wrote: >I am interested in >knowing how many concurrent but separate streams/sources people can handle >in real time and what the depth of processing constraints may be. David Hirst Lecturer, Educational Design Dept of Teaching, Learning and Research Support University of Melbourne Victoria, 3010 Australia ph +61 3 8344 7568 Fax +61 3 8344 4341 http://www.infodiv.unimelb.edu.au/telars/cds/