Subject: Re: Question on trill-tresholds From: Al Bregman <al.bregman(at)MCGILL.CA> Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 20:19:32 -0400This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_005D_01C2672C.5B4D26C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Gunnar, You should look at the following papers: Anstis, S., & Saida, S. (1985), Adaptation to auditory streaming of = frequency-modulated tones. Journal of Experimental Psychology: Human = Perception and Performance,11, 257-271. Miller, G.A., & Heise, G.A. (1950 ) The trill threshold. Journal of the = Acoustical Society of America, 22, 637-638.=20 Rose, M.M., Moore, B.C. (1997 ) Perceptual grouping of tone sequences by = normally hearing and hearing-impaired listeners. Journal of the = Acoustical Society of America, 103 (3), 1768-78.=20 Shonle, J.I., & Horan, K.E. (1976 ) Trill threshold revisited. Journal = of the Acoustical Society of America, 59, 469-471.=20 Van Noorden, L.P.A.S. (1977 ) Minimum differences of level and frequency = for perceptual fission of tone sequences ABAB. Journal of the Acoustical = Society of America, 61, 1041-1045.=20 Van Noorden, L.P.A.S. (1982 ) Two channel pitch perception. In M. Clynes = (Ed.), Music, mind and brain. New York: Plenum Press. Al Bregman ------------------------------------------------- Albert S. Bregman, Emeritus Professor Dept of Psychology, McGill University 1205 Docteur Penfield Avenue Montreal, QC, Canada H3A 1B1 Office: Phone: +1 (514) 398-6103 Fax: +1 (514) 398-4896 Email: al.bregman(at)mcgill.ca=20 ------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message -----=20 From: gunnar holmberg=20 To: AUDITORY(at)LISTS.MCGILL.CA=20 Sent: 28-Sep-02 10:18 AM Subject: Question on trill-tresholds =20 Most Honorable List! I have a question for my masters-degree paper: where are the trill = tresholds upwards and downwards in speed? That is, downwards; when do we = (in Hz) start to perceive single events (or durations and no longer an = iteration)? And the same upwards; how fast could the iteration become = before we no longer perceive an iteration, but a single (blurred) = pitch-phenomena? And how is it all related to interval size in pitch = (before we start/end to perceive a single stream and not several)? Most grateful for answers from recent research. Gunnar Holmberg (Masters examination in Musicology, Stockholm, Sweden) Gratis e-mail resten av livet p=E5: www.yahoo.se/mail Busenkelt! ------=_NextPart_000_005D_01C2672C.5B4D26C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML xmlns:o =3D "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office"><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2600.0" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Dear Gunnar,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>You should look at the following = papers:</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2><FONT size=3D2> <P>Anstis, S., & Saida, S. (1985), Adaptation to auditory streaming = of=20 frequency-modulated tones. Journal of Experimental Psychology: Human = Perception=20 and Performance,11, 257-271.<BR><BR>Miller, G.A., & Heise, G.A. = (1950 ) The=20 trill threshold. Journal of the Acoustical Society of America, 22, = 637-638. </P> <P>Rose, M.M., Moore, B.C. (1997 ) Perceptual grouping of tone sequences = by=20 normally hearing and hearing-impaired listeners. Journal of the = Acoustical=20 Society of America, 103 (3), 1768-78. </P> <P>Shonle, J.I., & Horan, K.E. (1976 ) Trill threshold revisited. = Journal of=20 the Acoustical Society of America, 59, 469-471. </P> <P>Van Noorden, L.P.A.S. (1977 ) Minimum differences of level and = frequency for=20 perceptual fission of tone sequences ABAB. Journal of the Acoustical = Society of=20 America, 61, 1041-1045. </P> <P>Van Noorden, L.P.A.S. (1982 ) Two channel pitch perception. In M. = Clynes=20 (Ed.), Music, mind and brain. New York: Plenum Press.</P> <P>Al Bregman</P> <P>-------------------------------------------------<BR>Albert S. = Bregman,=20 Emeritus Professor<BR>Dept of Psychology, McGill University<BR>1205 = Docteur=20 Penfield Avenue<BR>Montreal, QC, Canada H3A 1B1</P> <P>Office:<BR> Phone: +1 (514)=20 398-6103<BR> Fax: +1 (514)=20 398-4896<BR>Email: <A=20 href=3D"mailto:al.bregman(at)mcgill.ca">al.bregman(at)mcgill.ca</A>=20 <BR>-------------------------------------------------<BR></P></FONT></FON= T></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A title=3Dgunnarholmberg(at)YAHOO.SE = href=3D"mailto:gunnarholmberg(at)YAHOO.SE">gunnar=20 holmberg</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=3DAUDITORY(at)LISTS.MCGILL.CA=20 href=3D"mailto:AUDITORY(at)LISTS.MCGILL.CA">AUDITORY(at)LISTS.MCGILL.CA</A> = </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> 28-Sep-02 10:18 AM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Question on=20 trill-tresholds</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> =20 <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN lang=3DEN-US=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-STYLE: normal; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; = mso-ansi-language: EN-US">Most=20 Honorable List!</SPAN><SPAN lang=3DEN-US=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-STYLE: normal; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; = mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Arial Unicode = MS'"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN lang=3DEN-US=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-STYLE: normal; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; = mso-ansi-language: EN-US">I=20 have a question for my masters-degree paper: where are the trill = tresholds=20 upwards and downwards in speed? That is, downwards; when do we (in Hz) = start=20 to perceive single events (or durations and no longer an iteration)? = And the=20 same upwards; how fast could the iteration become before we no longer = perceive=20 an iteration, but a single (blurred) pitch-phenomena? And how is it = all=20 related to interval size in pitch (before we start/end to perceive a = single=20 stream and not several)?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN lang=3DEN-US=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-STYLE: normal; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; = mso-ansi-language: EN-US">Most=20 grateful for answers from recent research.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P><SPAN=20 lang=3DEN-US=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-ansi-language: = EN-US; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-language: = SV; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">Gunnar=20 Holmberg<BR>(Masters examination in Musicology, Stockholm, = Sweden)</SPAN> <P><B>Gratis e-mail resten av livet p=E5:</B> <A=20 = href=3D"www.yahoo.se/mail">www.yahoo.se/mail</A><BR>Busenkelt!</P></BLOCK= QUOTE></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_005D_01C2672C.5B4D26C0--