Subject: Re: musical tones in speech From: Martin Braun <nombraun(at)POST.NETLINK.SE> Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 11:32:05 +0200Thanks, Bruno, for your clarifying comments. As to your question. "Is it possible that the Dutch intonation researchers, in the process of extracting F0 targets from the intonation contours, applied subjective criteria that somehow were affected by the common musical tones they had been exposed to outside the laboratory? Since F0 target extraction is not automatitized, I presume it involves repeated listening to utterances and subsequent decision making. Is it possible that the distributional biases arose at that stage?" Answer: No, it isn't. This issue is treated in the method section of the paper: http://ojps.aip.org/journal_cgi/dbt?KEY=ARLOFJ&Volume=LASTVOL&Issue=LASTISS In short, the marking of speech targets was not based on listening. It was done on the visual pitch contour line. Further, musical tones were not discernable in the scales of the pitch-contour plots. The whole question of a possibility of "musical tones in speech" was never an issue, during all of the IPO work, where the data extraction was done. Martin ----- Original Message ----- From: Bruno Repp <repp(at)ALVIN.HASKINS.YALE.EDU> To: <AUDITORY(at)LISTS.MCGILL.CA> Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 7:50 PM Subject: Re: musical tones in speech