Subject: Re: Absolute frequency / Absolute color From: Martin Braun <nombraun(at)POST.NETLINK.SE> Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 14:45:12 +0200Christian, are you joking, or do you like to put me to a test? You wrote: "A hemitonic absolute pitch memory covering a musical relevant range of frequencies would correspond to an absolute memory of roughly 90 color shades (only hue, same saturation and brightness)." Reply: Small children, up to 5-7 years of age, only have to learn the 12 tones of ONE octave. We don't have more than these 12 tone names, by the way. When talking about different octaves we have to add an octave name to one of the 12 tone names (A3, A4, A5, etc.). To my knowledge, all music cultures have tone-name systems of this type. Once a child has learned the 12 tones of one octave it can transpose them into all other octaves without problems. In tests, absolute-pitch possessors often commit octave errors, because they don't learn the tones of all octaves. They learn the tones of one octave and take them as the pattern for all other octaves. Martin ----- Original Message ----- From: Christian Kaernbach <chris(at)PSYCHOLOGIE.UNI-LEIPZIG.DE> To: <AUDITORY(at)LISTS.MCGILL.CA> Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2001 7:28 AM Subject: Absolute frequency / Absolute color > Martin Braun wrote: > > ...this is not possible. There are millions of colors. Most of us, > > however, would have an absolute memory of 12 colors. Color circles > > of 12 colors are quite common and can be learned in a few minutes. > > The 12 tones of our octave can not be learned in years (with > > extremely rare exceptions), once you are older than 5-7 years > > An absolute memory of 12 colors corresponds to an absolute memory of > pitch for 12 categories spanning the entire range of audible frequencies > from 20-16.000 Hz (at my age). I suppose this can be learned in a few > minutes. A hemitonic absolute pitch memory covering a musical relevant > range of frequencies would correspond to an absolute memory of roughly > 90 color shades (only hue, same saturation and brightness). > > - Christian