Subject: Let's have a test on chord grammar From: Martin Braun <nombraun(at)POST.NETLINK.SE> Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 23:54:40 +0200Christian Kaernbach wrote: "In poems all sort of rule violations are found, even mixing of languages ...... Sure, this goes down to dada, and maybe Martin Brown would then say music has the grammar of dada." No, I wouldn't. The Dada people had to mix up elements that carried clear semantic signals, like cows, chairs, or tulips. They could not mix abstract elements, like squares or circles. That would not have been Dada. It is very remarkable that the term Dada, to my knowledge, has never been used in music. There are just no clear semantic signals in music, and syntactic signals are missing altogether. NOW TO THE TEST: It seems to me that the term "grammar of chord progression" has remained too abstract for several of you who contributed to this thread. Therefore I'll now give an example and, below that, a test that anybody is invited to take part in: A piece, which is well known and appreciated in many parts of the world, has the following sequence of chords in its final 10 bars: 1) D-A-C 2) D-F 3) G-minor 4) C-Eb 5) D-major 6) G-D-Bb-A 7) G-minor 8) D-major 9) G-D-A-Bb 10) G-minor 11) D-major 12) G-A-D-Bb 13) G-minor 14) D-major 15) G-minor 16) G-E-C#-B 17) D-major 18) D-major 19) D-F#-A-E 20) D-major 21) D-major 22) D-major Questions of the test: A) Which syntactical expectations could be SATISFIED by this chord sequence? B) Which syntactical expectations could be VIOLATED by this chord sequence? C) Can you guess from the chord sequence which musical style this piece belongs to and at which time about it may have been written? Please send your answers to my personal email address (not to the list). I will then collect the first ten replies and send them back to the list collectively. If you don't want to sign your reply with your real name, please sign with an alias. Of course I'll also disclose, together with the results, by whom, when and where the piece was written. Good luck. Martin nombraun(at)post.netlink.se ----- Original Message ----- From: Christian Kaernbach <chris(at)PSYCHOLOGIE.UNI-LEIPZIG.DE> To: <AUDITORY(at)LISTS.MCGILL.CA> Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2001 7:09 AM Subject: On the Grammar of Music