Subject: Fw: Why the music is music and the noise is noise? From: Peter Lennox <peter(at)LENNOX01.FREESERVE.CO.UK> Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 10:55:53 +0100----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Lennox" <peter(at)lennox01.freeserve.co.uk> To: "Tom Brennan" <g_brennantg(at)TITAN.SFASU.EDU> Sent: 24 April 2001 21:31 Subject: Re: Why the music is music and the noise is noise? > I like some Arabic music, quite a lot. > The point about patterns and chaos is a philosophical one; the term 'chaos' > seems to imply undifferentiatable or homogenous; if this were the case, then > no amount of organisational genius would produce patterns. If, however, > chaos means 'inhomogenous but hitherto not organised', then any 'structure' > deemed to reside in that inhomogeneity is either completely coincidental > (epiphenomenal), or 'intrinsic' to chaos.... so is there causality in chaos? > > So, is "noise" merely 'hitherto unrecognised music', or is music a human > conceit? > cheers > ppl > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tom Brennan" <g_brennantg(at)TITAN.SFASU.EDU> > To: "Peter Lennox" <peter(at)LENNOX01.FREESERVE.CO.UK> > Cc: <AUDITORY(at)LISTS.MCGILL.CA> > Sent: 24 April 2001 01:33 > Subject: Re: Why the music is music and the noise is noise? > > > > Peter, there is a very large cultural aspect to this. For example, Arabic > music > > with its different tonal scale sounds like noise to westerners just as our > > tempered twelve tone scale sounds to them like noise. I recall graduate > courses > > in linguistics where we were told that patern is what you impose on chaos. > > > > Tom > > > > > > Tom Brennan, CCC-A/SLP, RHD > > web page http://titan.sfasu.edu/~g_brennantg/sonicpage.html > > web master http://titan.sfasu.edu/~f_freemanfj/speechscience.html > > web master http://titan.sfasu.edu/~f_freemanfj/fluency.html > > > > > > >