Subject: Re: Al's Experiment From: "(Pierre Divenyi)" <marva4!pdivenyi%UCDAVIS.BITNET(at)PSUVM.PSU.EDU> Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1992 10:15:08 PDTRe: Jont Allen's comment. Plomp once defined speech as "a waveform slowly varying in intensity and frequency". I have yet to find a more succint and to-the-point characterization of speech: it implies the AM and FM nature of the signal and sets ("slowly") some limits to the modulation frequency. The sine-wave analog experiments (with due respect to Bob Remez and others) sins against one of the criteria -- the AM-ness. Thus, despite any degree of speechiness of the percept,