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Re: [AUDITORY] Shortest duration to perceive timbre or tonal quality? Suggest reference

This may be of interest:

Oppenheim, Jacob N., and Marcelo O. Magnasco. "Human time-frequency acuity beats the Fourier uncertainty principle." Physical review letters 110.4 (2013): 044301.

Tyler

On Sun, Mar 18, 2018 at 5:25 PM, Ciocca, Valter (AUDI) <vciocca@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
See also:
Robinson K and Patterson RD (1995) The Duration Required To Identify the Instrument, the Octave, or the Pitch Chroma of a Musical Note, Music Perception, 13, 1, 1-15.

Valter

On 17-03-2018, at 5:25 AM, Bruno L. Giordano <brungio@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Dear Jiajun,

I am not sure the web page referenced them, but what comes to mind, among others, is the work of Clara Suied et al. on this topic, e.g.:

@article{suied2010natural,
  title={Why are natural sounds detected faster than pips?},
  author={Suied, Clara and Susini, Patrick and McAdams, Stephen and Patterson, Roy D},
  journal={The Journal of the Acoustical Society of America},
  volume={127},
  pages={EL105--EL110},
  year={2010},
}

@article{agus2012fast,
  title={Fast recognition of musical sounds based on timbre},
  author={Agus, Trevor R and Suied, Clara and Thorpe, Simon J and Pressnitzer, Daniel},
  journal={The Journal of the Acoustical Society of America},
  volume={131},
  pages={4124--4133},
  year={2012},
}

@article{suied2014auditory,
  title={Auditory gist: Recognition of very short sounds from timbre cues},
  author={Suied, Clara and Agus, Trevor R and Thorpe, Simon J and Mesgarani, Nima and Pressnitzer, Daniel},
  journal={The Journal of the Acoustical Society of America},
  volume={135},
  pages={1380--1391},
  year={2014},
}

Best,

     Bruno


On 16 March 2018 at 10:24, Jiajun Yang <thejyang@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Dear colleagues, 

I am hoping if you can point us to some studies on whether there is a minimum duration of sound for its timbre or tonal quality to be clearly perceived. 

I found this quote from http://www.indiana.edu/~emusic/etext/acoustics/chapter1_timbre.shtml that “Some studies have indicated it takes at least 60ms to recognise the timbre of a sound” However, I am not about to locate the exact study. 

Many thanks

Jiajun Yang
Postdoc research, Ambient Intelligence Group, 
Citec, Bielefeld University, Germany



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