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Re: [AUDITORY] Neutral sound for a relaxation experiment, Bog the Frog



Dear Kelvin

Concerning frog chorusing, our following papers will give insights on the mechanism how frogs chorus.

Ikkyu Aihara, Ryu Takeda, Takeshi Mizumoto, Takuma Otsuka, Toru Takahashi,Hiroshi G. Okuno, Kazuyuki Aihara:
Complex and Transitive Synchronization in a Frustrated System of Calling Frogs,
Physical Review E, Vol.83, Issue 3. 031913 (2011) [5 pages], 21 Mar. 2011.doi:10.1103/PhysRevE.83.031913

Takeshi Mizumoto, Ikkyu Aihara, Takuma Otsuka, Ryu Takeda, Kazuyuki Aihara, Hiroshi G. Okuno:
Sound imaging of nocturnal animal calls in their natural habitat,
Journal of Comparative Physiology A:Neuroethology, Sensory, Neural, and Behavioral Physiology, Vol.197, No.9, 915-921,
Online First, 17 May 2011. doi:10.1007/s00359-011-0652-7

Ikkyu Aihara, Takeshi Mizumoto, Takuma Otsuka, Hiromitsu Awano, Kohei Nagira, Hiroshi G. Okuno, Kazuyuki Aihara:
Spatio-Temporal Dynamics in Collective Frog Choruses Examined by Mathematical Modeling and Field Observation.
Scientific Reports, 4:3891 Nature Publishing Group, 27 Jan. 2014. doi: 10.1038/srep03891

Enjoy,

- Gitchang -
Hiroshi "Gitchang" Okuno
Waseda University, Professor
Kyoto University, Professor Emeritus



2017-09-21 13:41 GMT+09:00 Kevin Austin <kevin.austin@xxxxxxxxxxxx>:
Or perhaps Frogs in the Bogs.

Of interest to the computer music synthesis community might be the anecdote told to me by Dike Newlin https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dika_Newlin of her invitation to work in the Bell Labs just after the time of Daisy. When she arrived she listened to the crickets and frogs in a local swamp and said that she wanted to program the system to sound like the swamp. As she told it to me, the suggestion was not well received.  :-]  Perhaps HAL’s character would have been different growing up in a computer generated swamp.


Kevin



On 2017, Sep 20, at 3:48 AM, Peter Lennox <P.Lennox@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I've noticed cricket commentaries to be pretty low valence 😉
Seriously, I've even heard a composed 'ambient background' track that featured low-level cricket commentary - very soothing

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From: AUDITORY - Research in Auditory Perception <AUDITORY@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> on behalf of ginacollecchia <maximumrandb503@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: 20 September 2017 05:54:20
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Subject: Re: Neutral sound for a relaxation experiment
 
I would also stray from anything algorithmically generated that is intended to be low-valence. You run too much risk of the brain identifying or trying to identify the patterns. That could result in a pretty emotional response to the discovery (or suspicion) that the sounds might not be authentic. (Lots of thoughts of the “uncanny valley of sound” now, hmm.)

In spite of that statement, I would choose low-passed, algorithmically generated white noise, e.g. pink noise, at a low volume—the sorts of sounds white noise machines and other sounds intended to silence the mind for sleep. You could use a recording instead, but make sure it doesn’t have to loop, as I’ve found that distracting.

Hope that helps.

--
Gina Collecchia

On Sep 19, 2017, at 9:28 PM, Kevin Austin <kevin.austin@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Having recorded ocean waves since the mid-1970s, I would suggest a good recording of ocean waves rather than an algorithmic version of AM white noise, as I have found that real [acoustical] ocean waves are among the most complex ‘simple sounds’ in nature. There are usually multiple asynchronous cycles, and there is, IME, never one simple wave. Each wave is a continuously evolving noise complex with lots of variables. These include spectral changes resembling band reject filters, phase shifters and transient resonances.

The wave breaking on the beach adds two more basic elements, one the wave collapsing onto the beach itself, and the other the ‘sucking back’ that occurs as the water recedes and stones and particles tumble back into the ocean. This is added to by the number of waves which can be heard from any one place.

For some people I have met, the sound of moving water installs fear. I would suggest the sound of a gentle wind in tall pine trees.


Kevin




On 2017, Sep 19, at 8:11 AM, Bob Masta <audio@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

How about "surf" sound, such as white noise with a slow 
AM modulation?  Easy to generate "live", and can run for 
as long as you want.  More soothing than continuous 
white, pink, or "colored" noise.

If you don't already have a suitable system, the signal 
Generator in my Daqarta for Windows software can do 
this with any Windows sound card.  Let me know if you 
are interested, and I can get you started with a Generator 
setup which you can easily modify to change AM depth or 
rate, etc.   

Since it only uses the Generator, it's free!  (Keeps working 
even after the trial period expires.)

Best regards,

Bob Masta

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On 19 Sep 2017 at 11:05, Aurore Hakoun wrote:

Dear list,

One of my colleagues is conducting a study about the comparison of EEG activity between two relaxation conditions: a postural relaxation versus a voice-guided relaxation.
She would need an emotionally neutral auditory stimulation for one of her conditions. This neutral hearing stimulus will last 20 min.

Do you have any clue about what kind of neutral sound she could use?

Many thanks in advance,

Best regards,

Aurore Jaumard-Hakoun.



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