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Re: [AUDITORY] Offstage instruments



There's an offstage guitar in Berlioz's Béatrice et Bénédict which later appears again from the orchestra pit.

Best,

Ian Cross


On 17/09/2017 22:27, Renee Timmers wrote:
In Gluck's Orfeo ed Euridice, 2 chalumeaus and a few strings are playing off stage. 
I have not checked this information, but have been told by a professional musician, who I asked about this. 

Best,
Renee 

On Sun, 17 Sep 2017 at 05:46, Arun Chandra <arunc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I'm glad that people mentioned Mahler symphonies, but there's also his
very first orchestral composition "Das Klagende Lied", which has an
entire orchestra and chorus offstage.

And his 2nd symphony, in addition to having instruments offstage, also
has an offstage chorus.

arun

On 9/16/17 9:16 AM, Jonathan Berger wrote:
> and on a very different note - Turandot which has saxophone and organ
> backstage - an amazing timbre effect.
> - jonathan
>
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> Jonathan Berger
> The Denning Family Provostial Professor in Music
> Bass University Fellow in Undergraduate Education
> Stanford University
>
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>
> On 2017-09-15 11:06, Pierre Divenyi wrote:
>> I would definitely add John Cage's_ __4'33" ._
>>
>> Pierre Divenyi
>>
>> On 9/15/17 1:02 AM, Victor Rosi wrote:
>>
>>> Mahler's 1st symphony : Offstage trumpets in the first movement
>>> Mahler's 2nd symphony : Offstage brass ensemble (horns, trumpets)
>>> and timpani in the last movement
>>> Alpen sinfonie (R. Strauss) : Horn ensemble in the third part (The
>>> Ascent /Der Anstieg)
>>>
>>> You also have this kind of effects in Opera's such as Madama
>>> Butterfly (G. Puccini) : in the second Act "Coro a bocca chiusa"
>>> there is a viola d'amore playing with a choir offstage.
>>>
>>> I hope I helped, i'll try to find other examples.
>>>
>>> Good luck and keep us updated !
>>>
>>> Victor ROSI
>>>
>>> 2017-09-15 1:04 GMT+02:00 Niels Christian Hansen <nch@xxxxxxxxxxxx>:
>>>
>>>> Dear collective wisdom (with apologies for cross-posting),
>>>>
>>>> For a research project at Ohio State University, School of Music,
>>>> we are currently assembling a database of musical pieces in which
>>>> composers call for one or more instruments to be played
>>>> "offstage".
>>>>
>>>> Classic examples from the Western symphonic repertoire include:
>>>> (1) the offstage trumpet in Ludwig van Beethoven's Leonore
>>>> Overtures Nos. 2 & 3, (2) the offstage oboe in the third movement
>>>> ("Scène aux champs") from Hector Berlioz' Symphonie Fantastique,
>>>> and (3) the offstage female choir in "Neptune" from Gustav Holst's
>>>> The Planets.
>>>>
>>>> We would be very grateful for your kind help in drawing our
>>>> attention to as many other examples as possible that you may be
>>>> aware of!
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>> Niels Chr. Hansen & David Huron
>>>>
>>>> Niels Chr. Hansen (PhD, MSc, MMus) | Postdoctoral Fellow in Music
>>>> Cognition | Cognitive and Systematic Musicology
>>>> Laboratory<http://musiccog.ohio-state.edu/ [1]> | School of
>>>> Music<https://music.osu.edu/ [2]> | Ohio State
>>>> University<https://www.osu.edu/ [3]> |
>>>> hansen.491@xxxxxxx<mailto:hansen.491@xxxxxxx>
>>
>>
>>
>> Links:
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>> [1] http://musiccog.ohio-state.edu/
>> [2] https://music.osu.edu/
>> [3] https://www.osu.edu/

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Dr Renee Timmers
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Professor Ian Cross
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