Re: [AUDITORY] Offstage instruments

[Roger Watt <r.j.watt@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Mahler’s 3^rd – flugel in 3^rd movement

Mahler’s 8^th – end of both parts

Verdi Requiem – Dies Ira

Britten: Ballad of Heroes (offstage tpts)

 

although not scored as such, trumpets in part 1 of Handel’s Messiah often play offstage – because they only play in one small part and this saves them from sitting for ever doing nothing.

 

From: AUDITORY - Research in Auditory Perception [mailto:AUDITORY@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Victor Rosi
Sent: 15 September 2017 09:03
To: AUDITORY@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Offstage instruments

 

Mahler's 1st symphony : Offstage trumpets in the first movement 

Mahler's 2nd symphony : Offstage brass ensemble (horns, trumpets) and timpani in the last movement

Alpen sinfonie (R. Strauss) : Horn ensemble in the third part (The Ascent /Der Anstieg)

 

You also have this kind of effects in Opera's such as Madama Butterfly (G. Puccini) : in the second Act "Coro a bocca chiusa" there is a viola d'amore playing with a choir offstage.

 

I hope I helped, i'll try to find other examples.

 

Good luck and keep us updated ! 

 

Victor ROSI

 

2017-09-15 1:04 GMT+02:00 Niels Christian Hansen <nch@xxxxxxxxxxxx>:

Dear collective wisdom (with apologies for cross-posting),

For a research project at Ohio State University, School of Music, we are currently assembling a database of musical pieces in which composers call for one or more instruments to be played "offstage".

Classic examples from the Western symphonic repertoire include: (1) the offstage trumpet in Ludwig van Beethoven's Leonore Overtures Nos. 2 & 3, (2) the offstage oboe in the third movement ("Scène aux champs") from Hector Berlioz' Symphonie Fantastique, and (3) the offstage female choir in "Neptune" from Gustav Holst's The Planets.

We would be very grateful for your kind help in drawing our attention to as many other examples as possible that you may be aware of!

Thanks in advance,
Niels Chr. Hansen & David Huron



Niels Chr. Hansen (PhD, MSc, MMus) | Postdoctoral Fellow in Music Cognition | Cognitive and Systematic Musicology Laboratory<http://musiccog.ohio-state.edu/> | School of Music<https://music.osu.edu/> | Ohio State University<https://www.osu.edu/> | hansen.491@xxxxxxx<mailto:hansen.491@xxxxxxx>

 

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