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Re: Precedence effect in real systems?

And these 2 papers compare several different ways of incorporating precedence effect, on a real task (though not yet one that can be easily compared with the binaural efforts of others, as in the challenges).


On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 7:50 AM, Pierre Divenyi <pdivenyi@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Its main contribution is that to our knowledge it seems to be the only
computational separation model that includes a precedence component.


On 9/2/14, 10:21 AM, "Jont Allen" <jontalle@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>Pierre (or Dick),
>What is the main contribution of this MS? Can you say, in a few words?
>On 09/01/2014 07:11 PM, Richard F. Lyon wrote:
>> Pierre, yes, I agree, that's a good one.
>> They had another the same year, which reached slightly different
>> conclusions about whether an interaural coherence measure is needed:
>> Hummersone, C., Brookes, T., and Mason, R. (2010). ³A comparison of
>> computational precedence models
>> for source separation in reverberant environments,² in Audio
>> Engineering Society Convention 128.
>> I wonder why nobody applied these ideas in the subsequent challenges.
>> Dick
>> On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 3:45 PM, Pierre Divenyi <
>> > wrote:
>>     Dick,
>>     I found this article
>>     Hummersone, C. (2010). ³Dynamic Precedence Effect Modeling for
>>     Source Separation in Reverberant Environments ³, IEEE TRANSACTIONS
>>     -Pierre
>>     From: "Richard F. Lyon" <dicklyon@xxxxxxx <mailto:dicklyon@xxxxxxx>>
>>     Reply-To: "Richard F. Lyon" <dicklyon@xxxxxxx
>>     <mailto:dicklyon@xxxxxxx>>
>>     Date: Tuesday, August 26, 2014 at 1:47 PM
>>     To: <AUDITORY@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:AUDITORY@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
>>     Subject: Precedence effect in real systems?
>>     I'm trying to find examples of where models of the precedent
>>     effect have been applied to binaural or multi-microphone sound
>>     separation or enhancements systems.  Looking at recent REVERB and
>>     CHiME challenges, I'm not finding much.
>>     Can anyone point me at successes or failures of precedence effect
>>     models in systems that have actually been evaluated in some task
>>     relative to other approaches?
>>     Dick