Re: [MUSIC-IR] Re: musical complexity

[Kevin Austin <kevin.austin@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

[1] I'm not sure about everybody knowing anything. 

[2] I think you are right about Boulez. My favorite part of the Mozart Piano Concertos is the entry of the gongs in the last movement.


Kevin





On 2011, Sep 2, at 11:26 PM, Eliot Handelman wrote:

> On 02/09/2011 9:10 PM, Kevin Austin wrote:
>> I would propose that the complexity / complicatedness is in the mind, not the object,
> And obviously it varies for different people. What we really need is a fixpoint to relate things to,
> ie a simulation of someone's mind, and why not good old JS here---hundreds of people are working on
> this at this very moment. Already, they're getting 77% of the keys right, and who knows where next. Soon,
> we'll be able to say things like "My iBach finds this piece complicated,  but not complex," and everyone will
> know what we're talking about.
> 
> 
>> Mozart's "complexity" is based on many hundreds of years of western music history, but locally, on about 180 years. Boulez's has the same history, plus another 175 years. Boulez was aware of the Mozart concertos; Mozart wasn't aware of Pierrot Lunaire.
> I think it would be easier to show le Marteau in Mozart than the other way around.
> 
> -- eliot