Re: sound cards, bit depth and the Windows mixer

[Stephen Neely <neely@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

John,

I am not familiar with the specific soundcards that you mentioned, but a few
years ago I investigated in detail the ways in which some Turtle Beach
soundcards handle sampled data under Windows. Based on that experience, I am
fairly certain that almost all mixing and volume control are handled
digitally, prior to analog conversion, with the exception being mixing of
the CD output. This means that, as you suggested, full D/A converter
resolution is only achieved at full volume.

Our Research Computing Core group at BTNRH is currently developing a
soundcard API to provide a common foundation for software in all of our
auditory resarch labs. For perception experiments, we provide an easy way to
supply visual cues that are synchronized to an auditory stimulus. For
otoacoustic emissions, we provide the ability to synchronize sound input and
output. We plan to make our implementation of this API publicly available
within a few months. I can provide more details, if you are interested.

-- Stephen

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-----Original Message-----
From: AUDITORY Research in Auditory Perception
[mailto:AUDITORY@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of John Culling
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 4:39 AM
To: AUDITORY@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: sound cards, bit depth and the Windows mixer

Dear list,

Does anyone know how the Windows "Volume Control" mixer
is implemented. Possibly it is soundcard and driver dependent.
My reason for asking...

We were recently doing some basic tests on new soundcards
(Edirol UA20 USB card, Echo Mia PCI card). Both are nominally
24-bit. We wanted to verify the dynamic range to at least 16
bits, so we prepared 16-bit sound files with 1-kHz pure tones
of various bit depths. The ultimate test was a 1 bit (dithered)
signal. We viewed the ouput on a 'scope. Both cards passed
with flying colours - the 1-bit signal was clearly visible, with
little noise apparent - other than the 1-bit dither we added).

Then we wondered whether full bit depth was only achieved
if the system volume was on full (i.e. does turning down the
volume lose bits). Intsallng the Echo Mia "pure wave" driver
forced the system volume to full, but for the Edirol it was still
adjustable. So we played our 1-bit signal and turned down
the volume. The image on the 'scope scaled down nicely, but
was eventually overcome by noise. So, no bit depth was being
lost for this signal, but of course the soundcard has 24 bits,
so the other 8 could be used for implementing digital volume
control and mixing. If so, presumably a 16-bit card would not
have behaved in this way. Is that the case?

I can think of one alternative, but I think it unlikely. Could
the card have several DACs for converting the different sources
in the mixer (wav, CD, system sounds etc.) and an analogue
mixer under control of the computer. This seems relatively
complex and less satifying as an engineering solution, because
it's generally better to minimise analogue circuitry. Maybe some
soundcards do it though. Does anyone know?

John.

Dr. John F. Culling (Senior Lecturer)
School of Psychology,
Cardiff University.
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Cardiff
CF10 3AT
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